10 mm commander ?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by judgedelta, Dec 5, 2015.

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  1. judgedelta

    judgedelta Member

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    I don't see much about commander length 10 mm 1911's. It doesn't appear that you would lose much velocity (or gain much muzzle flash) with a 4.25" barrel, since a Glock 20 barrel is only 4.6. The weight should help offset the recoil more than a plastic frame. Any experience to share?

    I know most will say why not just go with a .45, but then again, why not a 10?
     
  2. joneb

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    My geuss is not enough slide mass.
     
  3. WestKentucky

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    I would be nervous about a commander. My full size 1911 has a strong enough recoil spring that I would not want to mess with one stiffer in a shorter barrel. Glock operate differently too, so it will be a different feel.
     
  4. tipoc

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    Dan Wesson has made them.

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  5. don12

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    Smith & Wesson 1066,1076 and 1086 are commander 4 1/4.
     
  6. Olympus

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    Rock Island makes a couple different commander size 10mms. They function just fine. The Dan Wesson 10mm commanders are discontinued and fetch top dollar. But they function great too. Fusion builds a lot of custom 10mm commanders and they are great too. If you see one, but it. No reason to worry.
     
  7. Iggy

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    Pair of 10s. Govt Model and CCO.

    Been packin' and shootin' them for more than a decade.
    So far so good.
     
  8. harrygunner

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    Chrono data I recorded from my Commander length 10mm 1911:

    10mm Underwood ammo -

    180gr XTP : 1271, 1265, 1269, 1299, 1253 : avg 1271 ft/s 645 ft-lb
    200gr XTP : 1181, 1187, 1199, 1183, 1167 : avg 1183 ft/s 620 ft-lb
    220gr HC : 1152, 1153, 1165, 1156, 1161 : avg 1157 ft/s 653 ft-lb
     
  9. 2zulu1

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    Works fine for me, night time too. :)

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  10. bluzman

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    I don't own a 10mm RIA but I do own a .40 S&W (~10mm) RIA MS 1911 (Commander size). It's a fine pistol.
     
  11. agtman

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    As Don12 mentioned, ....

    10mm "Commanders" - i.e., 4.25" barrel and slide - were made by S&W as well. Those models were the 1076, 1066, and 1086.
     
  12. DaisyCutter

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    I had this thought tonight. Was at LGS tonight and he had a used unfired Glock 20 with Tupperware case and 2 mags for $400.

    I almost made an impulse buy.

    I currently carry a Glock 41 uniformed and Glock 30S off duty. Both are 45 ACP. I use the 30S for most hikes and road trips, etc. It's my daily carry. I also handload 45 ACP 230 grain ball like the Gubmint hands out food stamps. You could say I'm deep into 45 ACP.

    So I called my friendly Tackleberry-esque co-worker and asked about the 10mm. Be raved about it for hiking, especially with Gucci hunting ammo from Doubletap or Underwood. I asked whether 10mm offers performance sufficiently better than 45 ACP to justify another caliber. He explained the ballistic differences, and I was astounded. He said the 10mm is the best one-caliber option for anything I could encounter in the AZ back country, from black bear to cartel mule. It's accurate, flat shooting, and hits with authority.

    I still himmed and hawed, since a new caliber would mean new reloading dies, potentially even using small pistol primers, etc. He explained that for a trail gun, you don't shoot enough volume to justify reloading.

    So now I'm sold. Tomorrow morning I become a 10mm owner. It'll be a dedicated desert trail gun.

    For my scenario, I've determined 10mm is entirely justifiable over 45 ACP for a dedicated back country carry piece.
     
  13. d'zaster

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    10mm uses large primers.
     
  14. Tom Fury

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    Do you think maybe SIG will get to it

    With their 220/10mm in the next year or so? I'm waiting for that; seen the Hickock .45 video?
    Cheers, J
     
  15. barnbwt

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    "He explained that for a trail gun, you don't shoot enough volume to justify reloading."
    I suppose, if you want to be able to hit anything when the time comes :scrutiny:
     
  16. cheygriz

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    I have two 10MM weapons. A Glock 20 and an EAA full size Witness.

    Unless someone completely re-designs the 1911 for the high pressure and high energy of the 10MM, I would pass on it.

    I love my 1911s, but they were designed for low recoil, low power rounds.

    I prefer the 155 grain XTP or Gold Dot at 1400 FPS, or the 165 Gold Dot at 1350.
     
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