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10 MM Dream Gun!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by R&J, Nov 15, 2007.

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  1. R&J

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    Dude, I am diggin' that.

    A double stack would be cool too.
     
  4. Deacon Blues

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    What a beast! That would get some serious attention at the range...

    One downside: the light rail tempts you to put something on the gun that will completely ruin the aesthetics. OTOH, the rail looks good by itself, a Sig-like quality I'd say.
     
  5. TwitchALot

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    10mm 1911? Dare I ask how much (no, not for the expensive ammo)? :eek:
     
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    Fusion 10mm Longslide, $1295

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    Yeah. Maybe in a decade or so. -_-'
     
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    I bought one of the first Colt Delta Elite's back in 1988 after I returned from overseas with the Marine Corps. I read about that pistol for months and drooled at the thought of owning one. So I saved my pennies from my meager E-3/Lance Corporal pay and bought mine at the Del Mar Gun show in San Diego (Sadly California has gone to hell in the way of handgun ownership since then) for the price of $430, brand new in the box! After waiting the 15 days required I picked up my gun from the dealer and went immediately to the range. I still own that gun and it has been a fantastic shooter. I have not taken any deer with it but I plan on taking a pig with it soon. Anyone that can should own a handgun in this caliber.

    "Life is tough. Its even tougher if you're stupid!" -John Wayne
     
  9. pinotguy

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    There's a lot I like about that pistol but those "tacti-cool" features ultimately detract from it. I have a vision of what a Longslide 1911 in 10mm should be and it's not that. I do applaud Springfield for, at least, experimenting with the 10mm cartridge. I view any new gun in 10mm as a good thing. S&W re-introducing the 610 is another example.
     
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    now if we could just convince Ruger to give us a 10mm P-series or a 10mm CZ97, I think we could see a revival in the popularity of a great round.
     
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    Dan Wesson makes a 1911 in 10mm. One of the only 1911s I've ever thought about purchasing.
     
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    there is already a 10 mm. revival going on--

    Inspired, I think my the limited availability of the Dan Wessons, the Kimber Stainless Target II, and the EAA Witnesses.

    They show up sporadically, but they sell--if the factories / importers produced more, I'd bet they would sell every one.

    You can get a standard EAA Witness in 10mm for under $450--and you could even get a top-end only with an extra mag or two for under $300.00. The EAA Elite Match version is very intermittent, but the .40 Short & Weak shows up, so all it would take is a reamed cylinder and maybe new mags--at $600.00 or under, probably the steal of current 10mms. The DWs run, IIRC, about $850, and the Kimber is now about $1000.00.

    I bought the Kimber this summer on an impulse buy, and am thoroughly pleased with it--3 or less" at 50 yards is entirely feasible with the right load. The Kimber makes my 4th one--including the Glock 20 that blew up, and the 1006 I just sold. The original one is a SA Omega from 1989--6", both ported and unported barrels.

    The 1911 chassis in 10 is really a dream gun, IMO.

    Jim H.
     
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    I wish it was a bit cheaper. I love the black version.
    The Fusion gun looks meh okay. I think it needs a compensator, I don't like the way the slide tapers down towards the forend.

    If you want to go double-stack 10mm Longslide, short of making your own pistol from scratch, your only choice is SVI.
     
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    Way too much crap for me. I thought they had gave up building race guns?
     
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    I'd be a lot more interested in a 10mm M&P or 1066TSW. Another 1911, Yawn.
     
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    Imho

    The 10 mm is a good cartridge for those enamoured specifically with autoloaders.

    And, its really just a slightly larger diameter .357 magnum.

    All the fuss over it being a "great hunting cartridge" is BS in my opinion.

    It's no better than a 180 grain bullet out of the .357 Mag revolver.

    I'd rather hunt with a 45 ACP - loaded with 250 grain hard cast bullets - they will do a better job than either the .357 or 10 mm.

    Really.

    So, go ahead and spend your hard earned money on one if you want. :eek:
     
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    I am working on getting a 10mm Glock longslide together right now.
     
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    O.S.O.K. Says, In Part...

    1) The 10 mm is a good cartridge for those enamoured specifically with autoloaders.

    2) All the fuss over it being a "great hunting cartridge" is BS in my opinion.

    3) It's no better than a 180 grain bullet out of the .357 Mag revolver.

    4) I'd rather hunt with a 45 ACP - loaded with 250 grain hard cast bullets - they will do a better job than either the .357 or 10 mm.


    *****

    1) You're in the right forum! :D

    2) It's somewhat newly recognized, is all! :)

    3) Except with a G20, say, there's sixteen of those little jewels on tap! :p

    4) Hmm. Got some kind of numbers to convince us of that? I know 230 gr .45 Super can parallel some 10 mm loads.

    Here's some posted stats...

    Lets look at Double Tap .357 Magnum & 10 mm:

    1) .357 Magnum, 1600 fps, 710 ft. lbs., 125 gr Gold Dot

    2) 10 mm, 1600 fps, 767 ft. lbs., 135 gr Nosler

    3) .357 Magnum, 1400 fps, 688 ft. lbs., 158 gr Gold Dot

    4) 10mm, 1475 fps, 750 ft. lbs, 155 gr Gold Dot

    5) .357 Magnum, 1200 fps, 640 ft. lbs., 200 gr Hardcast

    6) 10mm, 1300 fps, 750 ft. lbs., 200 gr Hardcast


    I'd say the 10 mm shows a consistent, slight superiority, but okay, I agree.

    Here's how DT's heaviest .45 ACP checks out:

    .45ACP, 1010 fps, 521 ft. lbs., 230 gr Gold Dot

    Hmm. :scrutiny:

    Lets look at Buffalo Bore .45 Super

    185 Gr Muzzle Velocity: 1300 fps
    Muzzle Energy: 694 ft. lbs.

    200 Gr Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
    Muzzle Energy: 639 ft. lbs.

    230 Gr Muzzle Velocity: 1100 fps
    Muzzle Energy: 618 ft. lbs.

    230 Gr Muzzle Velocity: 1100 fps
    Muzzle Energy: 618 ft. lbs.


    Impressive, but not superior to 10 mm. I know you said 250 gr... But still...

    I also know there's other stuff to look at, like gelatin, sectional density, bullet design, etc.

    But still... :rolleyes:

    --Ray
     
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    Onmilo says, "I am working on getting a 10mm Glock longslide together right now."

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    Cool!

    On what kind of platform?

    I love my Glock 21 .45 ACP, and it does a respectable job of shooting 10 mm with a KKM Conversio Barrel. But I'd really like a Long-Slide...

    LWD puts together a limited number of .45 ACP/10 MM Long-Slides, early each year. They're always a sell out!

    --Ray
     
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    I like the Glock 20 myself. I would like an HK USP version. Or just HK to design an HK 10.
     
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    If a major gun manufacturer other than Glock gets into the 10mm market, we are in good shape.
     
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    Lets not forget that excellent flat trajectory either. Where you aim is where you hit for a much longer distance. That makes taking a quick shot from a distance much easier. Retained energy at range is also much better.
    Penetration is also very different.
     
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    I like the 10mm cartridge and all, but I'd have to agree. When I use a handgun to hunt, it's a real hunting handgun. A Super Redhawk 9.5" in .44 Mag. It spits a 340gr bullet at over 1600fps. About the heaviest 10mm load will be a 230gr at around 1100fps. No comparison.
     
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