10mm defense ammo?
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I use 175 gr. Winchester Silvertips in my S&W Model 1006.
Here is some ballistics according to Double Tap from his ammo:
DoubleTap 10mm
135gr JHP @ 1600fps - 11.0" / .70" frag nasty
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1475fps - 13.5" / .88"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" / 1.02"
165gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1425fps - 14.75" / .82"
180gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1330fps - 16.0" / .85"
180gr XTP @ 1350fps – 17.25” / .77”
180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1300fps - 15.25" / .96"
200gr XTP @ 1250fps - 19.5" / .72"
230gr Equalizer @ 1040fps - 11.0" and 17.0" / .62" and .40"
Now I know that the velocity from my Glock 29 will be lower than advertised becuase of the shorter barrel, however the 165 gr Gold Dot seems the best to me: 14'' of penetration and 1.02'' expansion!
Here is a youtube video showing this loads performance in a water jug test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZKxB8GATLU
DoubleTap 10mm
135gr JHP @ 1600fps - 11.0" / .70" frag nasty
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1475fps - 13.5" / .88"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" / 1.02"
165gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1425fps - 14.75" / .82"
180gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1330fps - 16.0" / .85"
180gr XTP @ 1350fps – 17.25” / .77”
180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1300fps - 15.25" / .96"
200gr XTP @ 1250fps - 19.5" / .72"
230gr Equalizer @ 1040fps - 11.0" and 17.0" / .62" and .40"
Now I know that the velocity from my Glock 29 will be lower than advertised becuase of the shorter barrel, however the 165 gr Gold Dot seems the best to me: 14'' of penetration and 1.02'' expansion!
Here is a youtube video showing this loads performance in a water jug test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZKxB8GATLU
I carry the 165 gr Golden Saber from Double Tap when in two legged country.
I carry a 175 gr SWC hardcast that I handload when I head into the mountains. Once some time frees up to experiment, I plan on deciding on a 200-210 grain mold and the 175 will be relegated to practice.
I carry a 175 gr SWC hardcast that I handload when I head into the mountains. Once some time frees up to experiment, I plan on deciding on a 200-210 grain mold and the 175 will be relegated to practice.
Rodd
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Re: my post yesterday on the S&W 1006: I have a 1066, durn it. You'd think I'd know my own pistol... geez. Gettin' old and forgetful. Anyway, everything else was correct. Thanks for reminding me.
A couple of other things: The 1066 came stock with a bobbed hammer. I replaced mine with a hammer that has a spur 'cause I like to cock the hammer first when shooting at game. Also, I purchased and installed an MMC adjustable rear sight and a new front sight, both with tritium inserts. I didn't care for the factory low-profile fixed sights.
Relatively speaking, this is a big, heavy pistol, even with a 4" bbl. I like the 10mm round a lot, for all kinds of reasons unrelated to self-defense, but the 1066 is a mite heavy for everyday wear, which is probably one reason they weren't that successful in the marketplace. A Glock would likely be a better choice from the standpoint of weight.
Re: my post yesterday on the S&W 1006: I have a 1066, durn it. You'd think I'd know my own pistol... geez. Gettin' old and forgetful. Anyway, everything else was correct. Thanks for reminding me.
A couple of other things: The 1066 came stock with a bobbed hammer. I replaced mine with a hammer that has a spur 'cause I like to cock the hammer first when shooting at game. Also, I purchased and installed an MMC adjustable rear sight and a new front sight, both with tritium inserts. I didn't care for the factory low-profile fixed sights.
Relatively speaking, this is a big, heavy pistol, even with a 4" bbl. I like the 10mm round a lot, for all kinds of reasons unrelated to self-defense, but the 1066 is a mite heavy for everyday wear, which is probably one reason they weren't that successful in the marketplace. A Glock would likely be a better choice from the standpoint of weight.
BlayGlock:
Just FYI, but those advertised velocity/penetration/expansion figures for the listed DT 10mm loads are as chrono-ed from McNett's stock 4.6" G20.
If you check out GT's 10Ring, there's a sticky there listing the figures for all or most of those same loads from a stock G29 - and, yeah, comparable velocities is less for the G29.
Again, just FYI.
Just FYI, but those advertised velocity/penetration/expansion figures for the listed DT 10mm loads are as chrono-ed from McNett's stock 4.6" G20.
If you check out GT's 10Ring, there's a sticky there listing the figures for all or most of those same loads from a stock G29 - and, yeah, comparable velocities is less for the G29.
Again, just FYI.
Rodd: it sounds like your Smith 1066 is set up real nice. Actually, the 4.25" Commander-size is a bit handier than it's bigger brother, which I have, the 1006.
Plus, both being single-stacks, they do conceal nicely, no worse than a 1911 in that respect. Admittedly, they're on the weighty side.
Trade-offs, ... but at least there are choices out there in 10mm.
Plus, both being single-stacks, they do conceal nicely, no worse than a 1911 in that respect. Admittedly, they're on the weighty side.
Trade-offs, ... but at least there are choices out there in 10mm.
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