10mm for an outdoors caliber?

[Mike 27]

I just got a glock 20 for christmas from my wife, and it is a replacment for my 357 woods gun here in Alaska. I say this with the exception of where I am going and time of year. In the summer I still will carry the .44 up in the white mountains. I like that little extra power with the bears out and about, but I am good for the rest of the year with the Glock. The 357 I love just so happened mine jumped time and a few other issues and had to go back for repairs, and I really did not trust it as a Alaska woods gun after those issues, that could have ended on a bad note.

 

[Gtscotty]

I wonder what kind of velocities you would get from that mechtech upper on a G20... hmmm very interesting...

.338Sako,

I've heard nothing but good things about those TFO's, I just wonder if Adjustable sights would be a must for hunting... I've been considering Meprolight adjustables, and Dawson Precision fiber optic adjustables...

 

[Stevie-Ray]

I've used 10mm for vacation/woods protection for over 20 years now. Only in the last few years have I switched my beloved Colt Delta Elite to a Glock 29, first to keep the Colt lovely and also the G29 is a touch more packable. I prefer the Double-Tap 200 gr, XTPs for my load, though I also reloaded the 10 for many years. I fully intend to reload again, as I move to the new house. Still have a ton of components.

 

[TexasPatriot.308]

autos, for combat, self defense, revolvers in big bore for hunting...

 

[Loosedhorse]

If you are close enough for this to be a probelm with a semi, you are close enough for the cylinder to bind

You might want to experiment a bit, as I have. The amount of pressure to take the slide out of battery, or to slow the slide enough to jam, is far less than the amount to keep a cylinder from turning. As to fur in the hammer, nothing's perfect--but generally the muzzle, not the hammer, faces toward the target!

I've had WAY more revolvers malfunction on me than Semi's. Glocks in particular. Revolvers are especially prone to problems involving dirty conditions encountered in the outdoors.

My experience with revolvers is entirely opposite, finding them great in wet, dirty conditions (with reasonable care given, of course). I did have one that would cylinder-unlock in heavy recoil (during testing, before I took it out "for real"), but a new cylider locking bolt spring took care of that.

And even that revolver: if I pulled the trigger again, it went "bang". Nice jam reduction!

 

[Skribs]

I've seen more failures in my Dad's revolver than I have in my semi-autos.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I've had plenty ig failures with both.

I will say though that the revolver failures absolutely 100% knocked the gun out of commission until tools and time could be brought into play.

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[sargents1]

Hmmm, a non reloader?

The 357 has been loaded down considerably since its introduction.

Now let's talk about sectional density!...really.

My 180 XTP 357 handloads will exit my 6.5in Blackhawk at 1400+ fps.

I would be impressed if most could outshoot that Ruger at 50yrds with a Glock.

I Do handload, I just dont handload .357 (I have a .45colt Blackhawk and a G20, so I dont really need a 357).

I was thinking of the typical loads available that I have seen for 357 and many of those are 'stout' but not blazin'.

As for finding a 10mm load that pushes a 180gr bullet at 1400ft/s...I have heard OF those, but I haven't seen one yet. 1300ft/s, yes, maybe 1350ft/s, probably. But much faster than that and you risk blowing your gun up.

So I guess that the 357 is a bit more powerful than a 10mm. You learn something every day if you're not careful.

 

[MCgunner]

I never said the 10 was incapable. I just much prefer revolvers and the .357 cartridge for the reasons I've stated. And, I feel REAL sorry for those who won't handload, sorta. I mean, they're doing it to themselves, guess I shouldn't feel THAT sorry. Some folks LIKE doing it to themselves

My concern is not 16 rounds for a bear, but additional ammo in a remote situation where I'm totally on my own and possibly a 2 day walk from help if I needed to use my gun. But FYI, I would not stop shooting just because a bear is chewing on me. Which brings me to this gem.

I'll address this statement. If I want 16 rounds, I carry 'em in my fanny pack when I go afield, SA or DA wheelgun. For the wheelgun, I have both HKS speedloaders and Bianchi speed strips, or I can just carry 'em loose. I've never actually needed a round, though, in all the years I've hiked and backpacked except for light .38s (I always carry 'em and have the sight elevation screw marked for them) to take camp meat. Oh, I finished a charging hog once that had been wounded with a rifle and headed for cover. A .357 to the head put him down. I then had to sit for 5 minutes until the shakes quit.

All in a lifetime of fun, and it ain't over, yet. ....I hope. Hell, I could keel over tomorrow, I guess. Remember, though, we're not talking about taking on the Iranian army here, just a hiking gun. The one thing I will say, though, is you might have a point down by the river (Rio Grande). I last hiked (last spring) Big Bend national park. I carried a 4" .357 because it's concealed carry only in national parks and it fit my fanny pack while my .308 wouldn't. The drug problem, mules, is huge along the border and I wanted something that would reach out. My .45 ain't so much a "reach out" gun. A 10, well, that would combine the reach with the firepower when fighting the cartels. LOL! Tongue in cheek on fighting drug gangs, avoid that if ya can. But, it's a legit reason to want an auto on a hike, methinks. Goes with the thread, right?

Whatever you wanna shoot, get out there and LIVE the life. I love the outdoors. For me, it's like going to church, seeing God's great creations and perhaps eating some of 'em.

 

[Gtscotty]

I love the outdoors. For me, it's like going to church, seeing God's great creations and perhaps eating some of 'em.

Agreed, well put!

 

[dsb1829]

Once I started shooting the 10mm I sold off my 357 magnums. They are both very capable cartridges, but for me the added capacity and lower weight are nice to tromp around the woods with. Yes, I am more accurate with a revolver set to SA, but if I pull my handgun in the woods it is going to be a SHTF scenario not a careful aim and fire.

 

[MCgunner]

Once I started shooting the 10mm I sold off my 357 magnums. They are both very capable cartridges, but for me the added capacity and lower weight

Dang, what 10 vs what .357 revolver? There's a 10 out there that is lighter than a 3" SP101? I didn't think there was even one lighter than a 4" M19, personally. G29 perhaps? How heavy is it? I know the EEA and the Smith are quite large and heavy and I've fired a G20, a big gun as Glocks go.

Hell, I like to carry single actions afield. If I have to draw on a threat, it's not going to be at the classic 7.5 yards. It's likely to be 25 or 50 and accuracy would be much more useful than firepower. I can make them work fast enough for any situation in the field and the SA trigger gets it done from a STRONG weapon that can handle heavy loads. My .45 Colt Blackhawk is a fave. It's stainless, but still light compared to other guns of its power, .44 magnums mostly.