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11 or 13 rounds .380 = is that a game changer ?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by scaatylobo, Jul 10, 2021.

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  1. Kleanbore

    Kleanbore Moderator Staff Member

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    Would you really expect to be able to reload during a confrontation at that distance?
     
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  2. plainsdrifter

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    I really do not expect to reload at all. But just in case I always carry another mag even with my SR9c
     
  3. scaatylobo

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    We both know that IF a semi auto firearm were to malfunction = 90 % of the time it will be due to a faulty or damaged magazine !.

    That being the facts as I have been taught [ and seen ] ,then a "spare magazine" is a thing you carry as a safety for the tool that if needed,cannot be replaced.
     
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  4. Kleanbore

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    All very true.

    I happen to think I would probably be better able to access a back-up gun timely than to reload the primary.
     
  5. plainsdrifter

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    Maybe, that would depend where you keep them. On an ankle? That would take more time than a mag on the belt. And you would lose track of the target.
     
  6. scaatylobo

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    Ok, then we can agree to disagree.

    I am faster with a reload magazine,than I am to access a BUG.

    Unless the BUG is worn as I do when in "indian terrority" [ REALLY hostile AO ].And worn weak side or shoulder holster ,not ankle or pocket.

    And yes I know that term is not P.C., and neither am I.

    I am a huge fan of the noble natives that are the REAL natives to America.

    But its just a expression and not a slur [ there I explained myself :) ].
     
  7. Kleanbore

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    Not disagreeing, but I cannot reload very quickly.
     
  8. scaatylobo

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    HUH ?

    I thought you were retired LEO ?.

    I started on the job in '82' and we were issued S&W model 10's with a heavy barrel [ I own it still ].

    And I was able to do a less than 6 second reload with just loops,I got really fast after they allowed us 'speedloaders'.

    I was MUCH faster with any magazine fed pistol.

    Sorry if I presumed too much !.
     
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    mavracer writes:

    Because the cops kept coming and wouldn't leave him alone, like we're supposed to.
     
  10. Kleanbore

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    No.

    Did spend many long hours around the campfire with senior LEOs, active and former.
     
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  11. scaatylobo

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    I am impressed at how long and how much has been said on this thread I started.

    I just recieved the 2 spare magazines for this pocket BUG,and I now see it as more viable.

    21 rounds [ with reload ] in ANY caliber is a SELF DEFENSE GUN in my NOT so humble opinion.

    And do note I came around from the .44 magnum,.45 ACP believers to now seeing it different as an old man.
     
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    I'll pick up my LCP Max Monday if all goes well.
     
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    Welp got back early from trip and ran to Cabelas. Yeah Sunday gunday 20210801_142730.jpg
     
  14. huntsman

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    I’m envious as I won’t get my max for a couple of months yet:)

    As an afterthought if you don’t want to pocket carry I’ve found a great little holster that I’ve been using for my old Elsie.

    it’s a Bianchi model 101 foldaway belt slide, Under $20. on Amazon it works great.
     
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  15. Kleanbore

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    The capacity was not the "game changer".

    The small size, light weight, good trigger, good sights, adequate grip, and the ten round magazine made the piece appealing to me for backup carry in a pocket, including left hand carry while driving.

    Everyone who has handled mine likes it.
     
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    Why do we think the federal 410 buck is going 650 fps?

    Yes, I still think the basic equivalent if we factory low of 4 32 acp ball rounds going over 13 inches is probably a show stopper with one trigger pull.

    Now with 2 pulls, that's 8 new holes/wound channels right on through.
     
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    I really enjoyed reading that. Especially noting the round balls seeming to have more terminal affect that conical rounds (probably comparable to modern fmj). Anecdotal evidence of even fmj flat points stopping better than pointy fmj. Thanks for sharing that.
     
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  18. scaatylobo

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    AND = this has 'what to do' with a pocket pistol thread ??.

    Just asking for a friend.
     
  19. 9mmepiphany

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    With that said and this thread running over 200 post and almost to 10 pages, I think we've covered the subject pretty thoroughly. I'll put it to bed so future reads aren't overwhelmed by the length
     
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