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12 gauge recoil estimation

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  1. Hog huntin Harry

    Hog huntin Harry Member

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    How many ft pounds of recoil would a 6 pound 12 gauge produce shooting 1 ounce 3 in magnum slugs ?
     
  2. Kevin Keith

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    Right at 55 ft/lbf

    Welcome to the forum
     
  3. George P

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    Welcome to the forum-say goodbye to your shoulder if you plan on shooting any amount of said shell in said gun.
     
  5. George P

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    using 1300fps, it is closer to 25, not 55 (25.6)
     
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  6. Kevin Keith

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    I used 1700. Remington Slugger 3" mag says theirs is 1760 fps
     
  7. George P

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    Even at that it is 44, not 55 and since it is a logarithmic, not linear, ratio, that difference is major
     
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  8. Kevin Keith

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    Ok. This is from the web page you gave a few posts up. Maybe you used a lighter powder charge. 44 or 56 f/lbf, it's a bruiser!
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  9. George P

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    That I agree and no need for anyone to shoot
     
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    Too much
     
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  11. Hog huntin Harry

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    Thank y'all for the information, first time I shot 3 in slugs out of my gun it cracked the plastic in the buttplate.
     
  12. jmr40

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    Using 1500 fps in a 7 lb gun I got 29 ft lbs. That is almost exactly the same as a 300 WM in an 8 lb rifle. From a 6 lb shotgun you'd be talking recoil in excess of 375 WM recoil levels.
     
  13. John Joseph

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    Felt recoil can be tamed---to an extent---with a properly fitting gun stock. Really.
     
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  14. Hog huntin Harry

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    Damm, glad I didn't try to bench rest those.
     
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    What kind of 6lb shotgun do you have?

    I know the light barrel NEF/H&R are pretty light.
     
  16. Hog huntin Harry

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    It's a Maverick 88 with a 18 1/2 in smooth bore barrel.
     
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    Not much as long as you don't dwell on it.
     
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    I have a Lanber O/U with 21 inch barrels that are rifled.
    With the alloy frame the gun come in at 6 pounds, great carry in dense woods.
    But the recoil with 1 1/4 oz. Lyman slugs is VERY stout.
     
  19. lemaymiami

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    Whenever I read about someone using these kinds of rounds (particularly in a riot configured shotgun) I always laugh.... and I'm pretty sure that they'll never run the number of rounds needed to actually be able to use those monster loads when needed...

    A basic 2 3/4 rifled slug load will do a number on almost anything short of a big grizzly bear with a single round on target (the grizz might need an extra shot or two...). The great benefit of the basic rounds is that you can actually practice with them over and over and be able to put them on target when needed. That basic rifled slug load will be hard enough on the average shooter... one of those "ask me how I know" propositions...
     
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  20. Kevin Keith

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    I know that's right!
     
  21. Jeb Stuart

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    I have been shooting the 4 1/2 lb 12 ga. Midland quite a bit with buckshot for the past few months. Also the short barrel OV, getting ready for deer season. I guess each will have their own subjective views on recoil, but it really does not bother me a all. I do wear some thicker clothing and this pad below which really helps. I also have a 20ga defense shotgun that I train often with and that is a piece of cake. I have gone through a whole lot of buckshot in the past few months and will be revving it up even more in the next few weeks.Of course my shot gunning is different from most folks. I am not a trap shooter. I am hunting specific needs.

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    Although I was a veteran (USARV, 1971) I had no combat experience when I was able to get a job in policing at the end of 1973... I was almost five years on the job when I ended up firing the only shot in a 22 year career.... then spent a few months in and out of court as the judge decided whether I was justified or not.... Since I had a country background I was comfortable with shotguns from the beginning - but not very well trained at all (very minimal shotgun training in the academy and barely trained enough to qualify every few years...) about basic shotgun tactics I was pretty clueless - and all things considered lucky that one day...

    That single incident caused me to do a lot of thinking and I went out of my way from that day forward to learn as much about my chosen weapon (far as I'm concerned a pistol is what you use because a shotgun wasn't available, period....). I never again fired a single shot on the street - and all these years later and long retired - I hope it stays that way. What I did learn is that most aren't very comfortable with shotguns for defense unless they're hunters or have had decent training in the skills and tactics needed to be successful. Many, many have shotguns but rarely ever use them - certainly not ones designed specifically for that one time - when it's all on the line. That's why I speak up every now and then about what's actually needed - and magnum rounds that will stop anything living aren't exactly anything other than something to brag about. What is needed are the basic rounds (2 3/4" nine pellet 12 ga. 00buck or rifled slugs - your choice), a solid understanding of their limitations, and enough actual use that you're fully comfortable with your gun in most circumstances...

    All of the above is why, when I first came to this site... I found Dave McCracken's writings on the topic so valuable. Hope any young man or woman who gets into policing where shotguns are issued as part of the daily gear - have the opportunity to read what he's written on the subject...
     
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