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12GA Rifle From HELL--

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by hubel458, Jan 23, 2006.

  1. hubel458

    hubel458 Member

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    Visiting here to let folks know about our latest
    big wildcat cartridge.First it was developed by Rob,John
    and I over on AR big bore forum.It is a long brass case
    made from bmg brass that we put a 12ga size rim on.Rob and
    John used a Borchardt falling block action and I used a
    Savage 210 bolt action shotgun that I put heavy barrel and
    and stock on..In testing I got a 730 gr Dixie hard lead slug
    out at 2700 fps.Got a 3/4 oz barnes sabot out at 3900.
    Here is picture of our case next to a plastic 12ga shell,
    which can also be fired in our chambers.Ed.

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  2. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

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    Wow. Maybe that's what I need to take to Africa!

    (Heh. Maybe I'll do it after I get my Ph.D. :D)

    How's recoil?

    John
     
  3. P95Carry

    P95Carry Moderator Emeritus

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    Holy moly!! That is some overgrown 12G :D

    Both those quoted figures make for around 11,000 plus ft lbs ME! Hell - indeed!

    Is recoil even manageable???? :eek:
     
  4. HSMITH

    HSMITH Senior Member

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    I hope that Savage ended up at 20 pounds WITH a good muzzle brake:eek: :eek:

    Holy Moly!!!!!
     
  5. hubel458

    hubel458 Member

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    JShirley--Not that bad as gun is built heavy for testing,
    25 lbs...It is really what is called a Bore Rifle.
    Here is picture of gun.Ed.


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  6. cordex

    cordex Senior Member

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    How is accuracy?
     
  7. Correia

    Correia Moderator Emeritus

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    Good freaking hell. Now that is a slug gun.
     
  8. hubel458

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    Cordex--Haven't shot for groups yet, real bad weather.
    Just chrono testing outside backdoor into a big bundle
    of hardwood for backstop behind chrono.Gun has a scope
    rail I can put on for accuracy testing.Warm weather project.Ed.
     
  9. Preacherman

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    Duplicate threads merged.
     
  10. RyanM

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    Wouldn't that be a "destructive device?" Or did you get the BATFE to make an exemption because it can take regular 12 ga shells?
     
  11. bogie

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    Has John Ross ordered one yet?
     
  12. hksw

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    Have you developed a magnum length yet?
     
  13. BusMaster007

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    Would JOHN MOSES BROWNING Himself order one? that's what I want to know! :evil:
    ;)
     
  14. The-Fly

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    just the thing for a little social work :evil:
     
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    444 Senior Member

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  16. blackhawk2000

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    You Sir, are insane.:what:
     
  17. mustanger98

    mustanger98 Senior Member

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    I don't know if I want to shoot that one or not.:uhoh:

    I can see the looks on the guy's faces at the range though.:D :D :D :D :D
     
  18. Rockstar

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    Looks kind of like one of Clark's handgun rounds.
     
  19. hubel458

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    Preacherman--Good man-Thanks for combining threads,
    and the better title..
    Ryan--That is why Rob floated idea for this, being able to fire
    shotgun rounds(plastic, paper, regular brass cases, our
    long brass cases) thus not under ATF rules.They don't
    even have to consider it or exempt it.. I have my 700HE, a
    long belted 3.87 inch case, built from bmg brass,
    that I put through the paperwork and got it registered as sporting case, which took 6 months.So I know the process.
    bogie-- He has our number, but he'd want one like Rob
    built on the Borchardt.
    hksw--We should have ultimate magnum.Here is pic of the
    Savage.Ed

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  20. SB88LX

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    Perfect for squirrel hunting. How much?
     
  21. Roudy

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    Now THAT is a versatile cartridge. As a backup you could always beat something to death with the ammo....for small to medium size game you wouldn't even need to shoot it!;)
     
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    :evil:
     
  23. beerslurpy

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    Yeah, its a sporting type shotgun. They just happened to overbuild it so it can take stronger loads. I heard someone got detached retinas from firing that beast.
     
  24. hubel458

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    Here is picture of Rob's Borchardt 12GA FH.
    Nice looking work he did, the real classic
    African style.Ed


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  25. BusMaster007

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    Beautiful work, Gents.:)
     

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