14" shotgun barrel no stamp?

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I'm guessing that's the reason why Mossberg isn't selling 16.5" bbl PG smothbore "other firearms" like hotcakes. Only if one's state adopted the convoluted '34 NFA (& it's 1960 revision?) wholesale is this toy legal w/out a tax stamp. It doesn't seem to be legal in Texas, and would offer me a whole 2" benefit - for which I'd have to have the front bead remounted. I've an 870 in 20 ga w/ a 21" bbl w/ full choke - I've thought about getting down to 18", but I'd have to spend good cash to have the choke tube reinstalled. If I'm going to all that trouble, why not just carry the new Kel-Tec, w/ 3 times the magazine capacity, & also only 26"?

On the flip side, it would be wonderful to own one just to demonstrate to liberals how ridiculous their silly gun laws are, written by people who have no understanding of firearms - one reason why I like my Kel-Tec SUB 2000, born under the no folding stock provision of the AWB - so it has a folding barrel.
 
Nope, the Youth Express w/ RemChokes. A Pachmayr grip & an extended magazine, but it eats mag springs if you keep it loaded. Handy little gun, & it helped someone change his mind about punching me one night. Apparently in the dark it looks like a 12 ga. It's a lot more controllable than shooting Navy Mossy 500s from the hip.
 
zak, love the case hardening. Let's add a free-float quad-rail system, a red dot, & a GripPod, & we're in business!
 
pistol grip for no-stamp sawed-off pumps

ShockwaveTechnologies.com is advertising a Version 2 of the famous birdshead grip made by Speedfeed. It is longer than the previous grip, and if installed on a Mossberg 500 with a barrel no shorter than a 14" barrel, it is within legal length of over 26" and DOES NOT NEED A TAX STAMP...

I already own a 590 14" AOW, but have one on order anyways. Good looking grips, and for under $40 its not a bad price.
 
MM,

Er, if installed on a Mossy 500 that came with a Pistol Grip from the factory... If anyone wants the link to the PG it's in the First Post in the thread... : )

FF!

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zakmatthews said:
Firearm companies have been pushing the envelope lately, consider the Rossi Ranch Hand: http://www.rossiusa.com/product-list.cfm?category=17
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Well, it's a handgun, really. It's essentially a volcanic pistol functionally, but a little bigger and more usable. Nothing "scarier" about it by making it smaller.

Kingcreek said:
The Rossi ranch hand is another example of a super-sized "handgun". I know these things exite people but I sure don't know why.
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I don't really see super-sized, considering it shoots pretty straight forward calibers (.22, .38sp/.357, .44mag, .45lc).
 
MCL 750.222; MSA 28.419, in pertinent part, provides:
‘(d) ‘Shotgun’ means a firearm designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder
and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire
through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single function of the trigger.
‘(e) ‘Short-barreled shotgun’ means a shotgun having 1 or more barrels less than 18 inches in length or a weapon
made from a shotgun, whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise, if the weapon as modified has an overall
length of less than 26 inches
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IF the weapons as modified overall length? This seems worded fishily, unless I'm horribly wrong.
 
Ash_J_Williams said:
I don't take your meaning.
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He is implying that ".45lc" is incorrect nomenclature since the original designation was .45 Colt and there is no "short colt" cartridge.

...of course there is a "short" .45, the .45 Schofield.

.45 Colt became ".45 Long Colt" colloquially to differentiate the two and it stuck long after the obsolescence of the .45 Schofield....or so goes the story.
 
Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I found some interesting new info. In an effort to make it easier for lazy people like me they made a list of all the parts you need to convert your PGO mossy 500 to a 14".

http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=438
I had wanted to try this out before but the hassle of it discouraged me, now I might give it a go.
 
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