148 gr wadcutters load, 357 Magnum, 2.7 or 2.8 gr Bullseye

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  1. BJung

    BJung Member

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    What are the differences in the size of your patterns using 38-148 WC plain base vs. 38-148 WC hollow point. For your handgun, how would you rank your top 3 or so powders with that bullet for accuracy?
     
  2. dannyd

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    The worst thing about Hollow Base Wadcutters is keeping these quart cans full.

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  3. dannyd

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    This a interesting chart


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  4. orpington

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    Reading posts to this thread, and reading about this prior to loading…

    Yes, what you refer to as the “crud ring” is the concern with .38 Soecial rounds in a .357 Magnum revolver.

    A velocity greater than 900 fps can result in the skirt blowing off and potentially blocking the barrel.

    I have 148 gr wadcutters, they are symmetrical/they are not hollow base.
     
  5. orpington

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    I finally got around to loading these loads using 3.0 gr Bullseye. I was rushed and it still shot fairly good. The first target is 5 rounds at 30 yards and the second photograph is the same target but with an additional round fired at 75 feet. B6B66885-D086-4D6E-82A8-E0D31EE132D9.jpeg 63C78A51-CDB1-4233-9E3A-FAA745E749C7.jpeg
     
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  6. Walkalong

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    Yep, although these aren't loaded light.

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  7. KY DAN

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    what kinda fps you get?
     
  8. joneb

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    What .357 or .358" WC bullet are you using? There are many WC variations.
     
  9. cfullgraf

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    I get tighter groups shooting hollow base wadcutters versus plain base wadcutters from my revolvers but the trade off is velocity of the bullet.

    If you drive a hollow base wadcutter too fast, you run the risk of blowing the skirt off and having it get stuck in the barrel.

    Plain base wadcutters can be driven faster than a hollow base wadcutter. For paper punching, hollow base wadcutters are more than adequate. Paper is pretty easy to punch holes in.

    Solid base wadcutters can be use effectively against some small game.

    Currently, my bullet moulds for 38 caliber wadcutters are only for solid base wadcutters.

    Some day, I might get a hollow base wadcutter mould. It is a bit more work than molding solid base bullets.
     
  10. BJung

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    Is there such a tool called a crud ring scraper?
     
  11. joneb

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    I use a nylon cleaning brush wrapped with strands of copper chore boy attached to a cleaning rod and chucked into a drill.
     
  12. murf

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    nice shootin'!

    the light taper crimp suggestion may shrink that group.

    testing powder forward/back might shrink that group also. most shooters will raise the gun (powder forward) on the first shot and come out of recoil (powder back) for all subsequent shots for the group. there is a lot of empty space in that case and a couple groups will find out if this matters for accuracy.

    luck,

    murf
     
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  13. Walkalong

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    Speer #13 spicy, long ago, wouldn't advise copying that load. `I didn't have a chrono back then. I could chrono some of them though, still have one of the two 30 Cal ammo cans full I loaded.
     
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