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16 Inch tavor vs 8 inch AR SBR

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by redbullitt, Aug 18, 2020.

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Sooo, tavor or sbr ?

  1. Tavor

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  2. AR SBR

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  1. redbullitt

    redbullitt Member

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    Curious on what you guys think of this one for terminal ballistics on 2 legged goblins. 16 inch 5.56 speed or 300blk Barnes blacktip goodness? Lets assume you have both rifles, and you know how to work them both equally well. You're also right handed for the Tavor's sake.

    Which one stands out and why for a house weapon and an away from home or a general "uh oh I need a rifle weapon?"

    Tavor: 16 inches of 5.56 throwing a 62g gold dot about 2900fps, surefire mini suppressor. Compm4 dot, aftermarket trigger. OAL is about 31 inches, notably heavier than ar, but well balanced.

    AR SBR: 8 inches of 300blk throwing a Barnes 110 at just over 2kfps, surefire shorty supressor. Compm5 dot, LaRue trigger, law folder. OAL is 29.75 inches

    I tend to lean to the tavor, but dang if im not getting cold feet leaving the AR... Any thoughts would be helpful.
     
  2. mavracer

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    I probability didn't spend much more building both my 8 and 10" 300 blackouts than what I could get a Tavor for. That's where my vote/money would go.
     
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  3. LoonWulf
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    Tavor, por favor! Except pretty much any engagement I'd have in our house the gun would be fired from my left.....soooo RDB!
     
  4. Varminterror

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    For a “house weapon,” the speed of the 16” barrel isn’t an advantage, especially when coupled with 5.56 vs. the extra weight of the 300, so that doesn’t really enter my calculus here. I don’t know that I think either make a great home defense option, as both are ranged far, far longer than what could ever be useful in any house I have ever lived in.

    I don’t handle a Tavor as well as I do an AR, the balance is wrong for what I am used to shooting, but as a “house gun,” it handles more like a super stable handgun (normally, a criticism for a RIFLE), so I could forgive the fact it’s actually a relatively unstable rifle. So I’d pick the Tavor over the AR, if I had both in hand and had to choose only among them.

    In my real-world, an integrally suppressed 9mm pistol is my “house gun,” and a suppressed SBR-15 is my “out of house” gun.
     
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  5. C-grunt

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    In the house: Either. Both are good choices.

    Outside: I'd go with the Tavor for flatter trajectory at range.
     
  6. Dragonfly

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    I’ve got a 13” CTAR that’s one of my favourite rifles but for your purposes I’d pick the shorty AR without hesitation. I’ve owned a 7.5” PWS Diablo and a couple of 10.5” ARs and they handle like a dream...even though the overall length is similar they “feel” shorter, and their ergonomics are superior to the Tavor’s.
     
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  7. BreechFace

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    I would go with the 300 BO but with a 9” barrel, suppressed. The 110gr Barnes are legit for personal defense. Doesn’t fall below expansion threshold for the bullet until near 300 yards. Ergos are better on the AR, plus I don’t care for magazine changes on bullpups.

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  8. sarduy

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    300BLK for Home Defense
     
  9. briansmithwins

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    Tavor hands down. Much easier to handle one handed if needed and the ergonomics are great.

    Plus if you do need or want to shoot at longer ranges 556 out of a 16” barrel will have much less drop than out of a pistol.

    For bonus points you could always SBR a Tavor for an even more compact weapon.

    BSW
     
  10. ZGunner

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    For ME? AR, hands down, due purely to comfort with the platform. The one time I shot a Tavor, years ago, it felt awkward and cumbersome in my shoulder. I’m much more used to the AR platform and can work it in my sleep, in the dark.
     
  11. DerMerchant

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    Never shot a tavor, but the extra velocity and reduced flash and sound of a 16 in barrel make it a better gun in general. And if you needed to shoot further out for some reason you would have a large advantage.
    But if it's just a house gun I would go with .300 blackout
     
  12. briansmithwins

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    With a bullpup almost all the weight is between your strong hand and your shoulder. That lets you keep the rifle pointed and ready to fire even if you need to use your weak hand for another task, like opening a door or calling 911.

    The manual of arms is different from an AR and takes some practice. But with practice I was able to get reloads and other manipulations done very fast.

    My house gun is a 16” AUG for the reasons mentioned above. The AUG just fits me better than the Tavor and makes shooting ‘easy’. I’m also right handed. If I was left handed I’d go with the Tavor as those can be fully switched over, including the charging handle.

    BSW
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2020
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