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.17 Win Super Mag

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by HarcyPervin, Jul 31, 2013.

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  1. HarcyPervin

    HarcyPervin Member

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    Well, Dad just picked up the new Savage in .17 Win Super Mag and I am really looking forward to shooting it. He did manage to find a store with ammo in stock and bought 12 boxes at $16/box. (I believe the 20 gr)

    I'll post a review on it if anyone is interested, but I'm also looking to see if anyone has tried one out yet and what their opinions are on the 20 vs. 25 grain bullets are?

    Thanks!
     
  2. ECVMatt

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    That should be a great shooter! Look forward to hearing your results. I got a Hornet about a month before this was released, so I am kind of conflicted. I reload, so the cost in not an issue, but being able to shoot and not worry about brass is also kind of cool.

    Let us know how it works out for you.
     
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    A couple of thoughts:

    On paper, the 17 WSM(rimfire) is very interesting as a design. The case was based on a 26 caliber nail gun blank and the MVs published run from 2600 fps to 3000 fps.

    However, I wonder at the timing of the release. We have seen a revival in the way people consider rimfires in terms of accuracy potential and performance, and, if you don't like to shag brass or work with small charges of powder, they are a blessing. That is why I like the 22 WMR so much (primarily for light varmint and vermin (and as a carry gun). I shoot more rimfires in practice than anything else.

    The problem is that I am not the only one to think so, and it is difficult to find the ammo. It seems that many are buying rimfire defensively because so much has been snatched up by others. Sort of reminds you of the tulipmania.

    It seems to me that the introduction of a new rimfire in a market where it is difficult to find any rimfire ammo and with only a few guns available is not the most astute market timing every made by a manufacturer. It mkes me wonder if the 17 WSMR will go the same way as the 5 mm Remington Magnum rimfire and become almost instantly obsolete. The 5mm was another cartridge that is very impressive on paper--but the timing was wrong IMHO.

    Personally, I am not really very interested in it because I think that 17 caliber is just a bit light for me to use in the field. However, If I am wrong, I would be VERY interested in a 22 caliber based on the same case if it would come close to replicating, or bettering, 22 Hornet performance.
     
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    I'm going to buy one of the new 17WSM's soon, they just aren't priced all that high, so i'm willing to give one a chance. I like to have some "personal experience" on a subject BEFORE i start running my mouth about it.

    Anyway, i was at my LGS yesterday and bought some of the ammo, ($14.49 per bx) but he had already sold the last rifle a few days before. He said he's sold 12 rifles so far and would have more in soon.

    DM
     
  5. HarcyPervin

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    It seems like everywhere I look people are waiting for either rifles or ammo to be available but not many have had both in the same place at once!

    I'm looking forward to getting out and putting some rounds through it. It's a pretty interesting rifle, lots of interesting changes from a standard rimfire rifle.
     
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    The American Rifleman does as review in the August 2013 issue. Accuracy is quite good. An interesting feature is the rear locking lugs on the Savage rifle. I will have to check my Savage 22 WMR to see if it is the same. In any case, the rear lugs (similar to those on the Remington 583 rimfire and 788) provide an even pressure on the case head and should contribute to the accuracy (which, per the table in the article, is quite good).

    In any case, all of this is on paper right now. I am waiting to see if the cartridge will take off or be a flash in the pan (not to mix metaphors...)
     
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    :)

    Hopefully no one is hording rimfire by buying it with borrowed money.
     
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    I for one am very interested in the real world range report.
    Keep us posted.
     
  9. HarcyPervin

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    Update on this one (it's been way too long)

    I finally got to shoot the .17 Super Mag, or pull the trigger on it...in the hopes of something happening....but alas, no boom...

    The first round fired, but after that it was hit and miss. I think there was something wrong with the cocking mechanism in the bolt, because 9 out of 10 times, nothing would happen when I pulled the trigger.

    As it was the first time the gun was being shot, I didn't want to fool around with it too much, especially not on the range.

    I'll update this further once I'm able to figure it out, but the gun may go back to Savage right away.

    Quite frustrating, really. So far, I'm really not impressed with the Savage BMag and its new cock-on-closing mechanism.
     
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    i read somewhere that the savage bmags were having issues and savage is still trying to work out all the kinks. i think ill wait to get one...
     
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    Any source on that? I did a little looking around this afternoon but didn't see much. I'm wondering if I'm experiencing the same thing as others.
     
  12. ECVMatt

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    I have heard about cases getting stuck in the BMag. This could be death for the 17WSM if someone else doesn't getting a working rifle out there pretty quick. I really can't see anyone stepping up.

    Ruger seems to be well into the Hornet, I think CZ is going to have one as well. Remington has the Fireball and the 17 Remington, so I don't see them adding a 17 WSM. Marlin is owned by Remington, so that might take them out. I know Winchester as a single shot, but it is about a grand. I am not too sure where that leaves the 17WSM?
     
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