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1861 all over again

Discussion in 'Legal' started by telewinz, Feb 8, 2004.

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Between the Confederate Army and the Union Army I'll join...

  1. The Union Army

    29 vote(s)
    40.3%
  2. The Confederate Army

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    59.7%
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  1. telewinz

    telewinz Member

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    Its 1861 and you live in the United States, you have ONLY two choices. You can go out the back door of your home and join the Confederate Army or go out the front door and join the Union Army. If you don't choose one side or the other, angry mobs will burn down your home with you in it in two minutes.
    Despite all the good and all the evil that occurred, desite all the just and unjust causes which side most suits you?
     
  2. Mulliga

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    Difficult choice, but the North's eventually going to win, so...
     
  3. Shooter 2.5

    Shooter 2.5 Member

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    For the Union because I'm pro-American, Pro-Freedom and Anti-Slavery.
     
  4. SodaPop

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    I'd have a raccoon skin cap on and wandering around out west.
     
  5. cordex

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    The Union was pro-American, but that's pretty much it, and being blindly pro-American is not a virtue in my book.
    The Civil war did little to enhance freedom in this country.
    As an earlier thread mentioned, the Union wasn't fond of freeing slaves except outside said Union. In other words, they were anti-slavery ... for everyone else. The thirteenth amendment wasn't passed until well after the war was over.

    Don't accuse me of being racist or pro-slave. I'm neither. I simply don't see the Union as the blameless saviors of the world. 'Course, neither were the Confeds by a long shot.

    I'd leave through the side door and try to bag the highest ranking officer I could from each side on my way out. I hold in very low esteem any that would hold a war on my lawn.
     
  6. Mastrogiacomo

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    I'm from Boston -- the choice is clear.

    I remember when they did the series for the Civil War. They spoke about two soldiers -- the one from the South asked the Northerner -- "Why are you fighting this war?" He replied, "To save the Union." When asked the same question the Southerner replied "I'm fighting because you're here."

    It'd probably be true of most us if an angry mob was outside our door....:p
     
  7. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    Confederate, of course.

    First, I have neither sentiments of loyalty nor sympathy for the Southern cause. No relative of mine fought for in the war (we weren't here yet).

    Why the South then? Simple. I don't want to fight and I want out. So, I'd desert ala Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain), take the loyalty oath and get out of the war. Does the Boston Journal need another reporter?:p
     
  8. Hkmp5sd

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    The South.

    My ancestors fought for the South and from what I've studied on the subject, they fought for correct and honorable reasons.
     
  9. telewinz

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    By the end of the War, even most Southerners questioned the "nobleness" of their cause, their lack of faith helped to bring about their defeat. In the North, by '63 most had no noble cause, they just wanted to get the war over with one way or another.
     
  10. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

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    I'd cut the mob down, and then move to Fiji.
     
  11. luke

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    A civil war is a conflict between opposing groups of citizens for control of a country. The War of Northern Aggression was fought between The Confederate States of America and the United States of America.
    This conflict , despite over 100 years of spin, was not a "civil war". The loyalty of a soldier was to their own nation,so there was really very little choice in which side to join.
     
  12. Don Gwinn

    Don Gwinn Moderator Emeritus

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    You want the truth? I'm from Illinois. I'd probably be Union. Be a harder choice if they'd had an internet and such back then, but they didn't.
     
  13. MeekandMild

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    Confederate of course. I'd hate to fight against my own ancestors.

    I would wonder if you might have considered chronic starvation to be a prime factor in loss of faith? The Confederacy lost a percentage of its population to disease and famine roughly equivalant to the percentage of Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians who were starved out by Stalin. We will never know exactly, but the total death rate for 1860-65 was something between 25% and 35%.
     
  14. Moparmike

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    Confederate. I will be damned if I will join in the oppressing and shafting of the Constitution.


    Do I get to have my AK?:D
     
  15. swifter

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    After some reading on the subject, I'm forced to the conclusion that Lincoln
    destroyed the Republic behind the smokescreen of saving the Union...:mad: I'd go with the South.

    Tom
     
  16. Bill St. Clair

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    I would devote my life to the assassination of Abe Lenin. He lived entirely too long.
     
  17. answerguy

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    I'm with you...

    I'd go out the northern door head west til about 1865 then come back to the east, wait about 20 years and then invest in some of Thomas Edison's inventions.
     
  18. ojibweindian

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    Between the two choices, I'd go with the South.

    But, in all honesty, given my ancestry and, if allowed to entertain my druthers, I'd run up north to my tribe and wait it out, hoping that the south would when so we could get back our land and way of life.
     
  19. telewinz

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    WOW! Talk about re-writing history:eek:
     
  20. Hkmp5sd

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    Has nothing to do with re-writing history. The war did not meet the definition of a civil war. The South never wanted nor sought to gain control of the entire country and replace the government with their own. They fought to leave that government and rule themselves.

    To consider the war a "civil" war, you would have to characterize the Revolutionary War a civil war involving England. The only differences between this war and the Revolutionary War is that in one case, there was an ocean dividing the combatants. The other difference is that in the "Civil War," the side wishing independence had a legal right to leave, while in the Revolutionary War, the side wishing to leave was in rebellion against their sovereign ruler.
     
  21. Chris Rhines

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    I don't fight for anyone but myself. Not even if government thugs tell me to. I'll take the angry mobs.

    - Chris
     
  22. Josey

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    Lincoln was a dictator. I would go Confederate with the rest of the family. Oddly enough, MOST CSA veterans were decorated for valor in the Span-Am War.
     
  23. Bigjake

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    confederacy. shame lincoln didnt catch it a whole lot sooner than he did.
     
  24. Stealth101

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    THE SOUTH !
    For freedom, independence and the preservation of our constitution!
     
  25. Joe Demko

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    The Union. Whatever motivations Lincoln et. al. might have had, you may consider me an abolitionist. Slavers belong at the end of a rope, preferably put there by their former slaves, regardless of which side of the Mason-Dixon line they call home.
     
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