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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Dudedog, Dec 3, 2013.

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  1. Dudedog
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    OK, I had to change the powder for my .45 reloads because what I have been using is unavailable, so now my 1911 is upset and has decided to throw cases back at my face:cuss:

    Played around with the powder charge a little and it still does it every now and then.
    Been wounded twice!

    Any thoughts on the load change or maybe something else causing it?

    Tired of putting band aids on my forehead at the range.:eek:

    Didn't now where to put this thread. (Autopistols, reloading, gunsmithing?)

    PS: I talk to it and caress it all the time so I don't know why it is upset. (Possibly female?):confused:
     
  2. Taterhead

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    What powder, bullet, charge weight?

    Without knowing more, this sounds like a charge that might be on the light side.

    This would be a great question for the reloading forum.

    P.S. I'm sure that your 1911 doesn't hate you. It just might be a bit cranky.
     
  3. Wishoot

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    Buy her some expensive JHP's and new grips. That will make her love you again.
     
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    Wear a hat. :neener:
     
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    230grn LRN, 6.0 grns Autocomp (I know it's not a favorite 45 powder but I could not find any more Universal and it was available) and yes that is right at the starting load according to the Winchester/Hodgdon web site. Chronos about 820.

    HHmmm maybe it's upset because of the smaller slimer European it saw me with.:D
     
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    I had a Sig 1911 that normally functioned perfectly but it didn't like excessively light loads. It would fire, eject, and feed the lighter loads but the spent brass would usually hit you in the face. Problem didn't occur with zippier loads. I've never used the powder you're using, but it might be worth trying a little more of it so long as the manual shows you to still be in the safe range.
     
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    Does the firearm have lots of rounds through it?

    Maybe he extractor channel needs to be cleaned.

    Maybe the extractor needs to be reset or replaced if the gun has lots of rounds through it.
     
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    I use almost exclusively AutoComp in 45ACP and I actually like it better than Universal. My pet load is 6.4gr AutoComp under a cast LRN 230 at 1.250" COL. This shows me 801 fps with a standard deviation of 15. The standard deviation could be better but it's a heck of a lot better than some of the other loads I've tested.

    I could probably pick up the speed a little if I shortened the COL to 1.200" but I'm looking more for good groups than I am how fast I can push the boolit.
     
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    Agree with cfullgraf.

    Play with the extractor. Make sure ALL crud, carbon, dried lube, etc., is gone. Lube with light oil. Work it with your fingers. I've never noted a big change in ejection direction based on the load itself.
     
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    I've had exactly the opposite experience I'm afraid. Lighter loads/boolits in my Gvt. will put my baseball hat to good use. Heavier loads/boolits will give the grandkids something to chase while I'm loading magazines. My officers model on the other hand pretty much just scatters 'em everywhere.
     
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    My S&W commander length when it was new spat factory rounds into my face which is why I took to bigger shooting glasses and a baseball cab with the brim touching the top of the glasses! I had a nice cut on my nose.

    Reloads at lighter loads don't seem to do the same, but maybe I'm not noticing cause I now always wear the baseball cap and shooting glasses :)
     
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    1. Yes that is a start load so I will try bumping it up a bit.
    2. Will pull the extractor out and give it a good cleaning.
    3. It's aluminum frame Commander about 50 years old so it probably has a lot of rounds thru it.

    Anyone with a good source for a new extractor in case I need one?
    RCModel had this link for fitting it.
    http://www.m1911.org/technic2.htm


    PS I can always wear this hat but the people at the range might think I am a little strange, especially if they know I am shooting reloads! Should definitely stop cuts to the forehead:D
    Helemt.jpg !

    PS #2 6grns is almost 2 carats already:eek:, how much does she want?
     
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    Your info will help me chase it down. Might just be the load change but I have but quite a few rounds thru it lately so it might be one of the other issues as well

    Thanks everybody.
     
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    That was the only negative about my brand new CZ 75 compact. Of course, I can't blame the gun until I address the shooting range set up. The spent case was obviously bouncing off the enclosure at the shooting lane booth. Right into my shooting glasses.

    Had the same problem with the Zastava Tok in 9mm that I used to own, though the Tok was worse because the case wasn't bouncing off of anything - it just made a perfect trajectory into my face. :( And at THAT time, I was wearing my standard prescription glasses for eye protection and sometimes the cases would land BEHIND the lense since prescriptions don't fit tight to your face like protective eyewear. (I no longer have those glasses, either.)

    Next time I go I'm wearing a hat. :)
     
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    My 9mm 1911 puts the empties straight into my wife's cleavage, she's not amused but I enjoyed the dance :) Puts 'em over my right shoulder about 3' back easy to find afterwards. A weak grip can cause this, perhaps your new loads are a bit hotter than you are used to.
     
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