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1911 or glock 21

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by janobles14, Sep 17, 2008.

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  1. janobles14

    janobles14 Member

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    ok i need opinions that are hopefully based on things like:

    1. function
    2. fit and finish
    3. reliability
    4. accuracy
    5. shootability
    6. all other random stuff

    i am going to get one or the other for my next .45 and am at a full on crossroads! help!
     
  2. theken206

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    what do you have to spend??

    have you used the 1911 platform before??

    whats the purpose of the gun??
     
  3. MICHAEL T

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    To totaly different pistols . You must handle shoot and decide .
     
  4. easyg

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    First you should hold a G21 and see if your hands are large enough to comfortably shoot one.
    I love Glocks, but my hands don't love the G21. :(
     
  5. ndh87

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    My hands fit the G21 but a 1911 is my first choice. I have a Kimber 1911. its one of those guns that just feels right.
     
  6. bgeddes

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    Ditto. The 1911 I own shoots great for me.
     
  7. Prepster

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    My opinion on winners in each category:

    1. Glock
    2. Higher-end 1911
    3. Glock
    4. Higher-end 1911
    5. Totally personal
    6. Random stuff: Glock wins for tacticool-ness, 1911 wins for much better looks.

    Wow, that is pretty close.
     
  8. cliffy

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    Kimber

    .45 ACP and Kimber should be a synonymis term. I shoot one regularily, and have found nothing to complain about; I love to complain, so maybe I should buy something else. cliffy
     
  9. sheephearder

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    You have to handle and shoot both, only you can decide what you like and shoot best. They are both good guns and each have their following I have owned and shot both and have settled on the 1911 but still like the Glock too.
    It does have a large grip and is lighter, it is a personal preference and neither is better than the other.
     
  10. nalioth

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    So at the next intersection, buy the other one. ;)
     
  11. Black Majik

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    For the same price point as the G21, I'd take the Glock over the 1911.
     
  12. janobles14

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    so kinda split it seems with a bit leaning to the high end 1911.

    k lets narrow some....i dont want to spend the custom 1911 price. i have held and shot both. i was just hoping someone had experience with both to the point of tipping the scales somehow.

    btw hands are plenty big for the 21 being 6'5" and 260 lbs. i like the feel of the 1911 better but am drawn to the function (design) of the glock (but i am not crazy about the overall look and feel). BUT i like the way the glocks shoot! ARGHH!!!

    GIVE ME MORE!
     
  13. Mickstix

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    What purpose is the gun going to serve??
     
  14. Black Majik

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    What is your price range, and what would constitute as "high end 1911" for you?
     
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    I own a Glock 21 and a 1911 Kimber. For reliability the Glock wins. For accuracy, fit and finish, ergonomics, and pure beauty all 1911. Single action versus double action, I shoot single action much better.
     
  16. Kino74

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    The 1911 comes in enough colors and flavors for any budget. The G21 comes in standard G21 and G21 SF which has a slimmer grip and is much easier to handle. If budget is a concern, go with the Glock. If you're willing to spend more try a STI Trojan. In the end buy the gun you will not have to deal with buyer's remorse.
     
  17. CWL

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    A G21 is a single-branded pistol.

    A M1911 is a platform of pistols of which there are easily dozens of brands and hundreds of variants. Price differences from lowest-end to highest-end is easily $3500 and probably more.

    How can anyone compare the 2?

    Buy the one that you shoot the best. If you aren't sure, buy the one that feels best in your hands, that is as good a start as any.
     
  18. distra

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    Why choose? Get both! :D:D Seriously, I have both platforms and like them for different reasons. My 21 came with 2 mag extension takeing the capacity to 17 rds each which is a plus for IPSC shoots needing lot o' rounds. I would still never part with bobtailed S&W commander or my Ti custom Caspian, both are great shooting guns. If funds allow, pick up one of each you will not be sorry.
     
  19. Dobe

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    Hmmm, shoot both and decide. Both are good platforms and equally reliable. The 1911 excels in ergonomics and trigger. Those two attributes mean a lot to me.
     
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    If you like the way the 1911 feels over the Glock, I would take the 1911. Gary at randgfirearms.com has a Glock 21 second generation in the box for under $400. He also has some really nice 1911's. Have been doing business with him for about 30 years. Did not mean to turn this in a sales pitch, just more places you can look for deals.
     
  21. easyg

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    In that case, I recommend the Glock 100%!

    IMO, neither gun is that great as a concealed carry piece....but for home defense, open carry, or a truck gun, the G21 easily trumps the 1911.

    Think about it....
    It cost less than a nice high-end 1911, so you'll have money for more ammo and accessories.
    It has Glock's outstanding reliability.
    It only weighs about 26 oz (vs about 40 oz for a 1911).
    And it offers 13+1 rounds of .45ACP (vs 7+1 for the typical 1911).

    If I was your size (6'5") with larger hands I would choose the Glock G21 without a second thought.

    Good luck,
    Easy
     
  22. Ske1etor

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    I kindly disagree. The 1911 is a fantastic concealed carry piece. The 1911 is very slim.

    You don't need to buy a "High-End" 1911 to get a good 1911. The Kimber Custom II is one of the best buy's in the 1911 world right now. You can pick one up for around 700 in most markets.

    1911's are inherently less reliable due to the tightening of the design for accuracy purposes. There are a few little in home steps you can do that will make a factory 1911 just as reliable as any glock.

    The weight difference is negligible when you load the weapon. A single round of .45acp JHP weighs nearly one ounce. 14 rounds of .45ACP plus the mag weighs about 16 ounces. Add another magazine and 13 more rounds and you are looking at 14 more ounces. You are looking at about 56 ounces for that weapon plus a spare mag. My 1911 weighs almost exactly 40 ounces. 8+1 in the chamber weighs about 10 ounces and an extra mag of 8 weighs about 9 ounces for a total of about 59 ounces. It is almost impossible to tell the difference between an object that weighs 56 ounces and an object that weighs 59 ounces. I work in a laboratory and weigh things all day on scientific scales and I can tell you that telling the difference in hand is hard, telling the difference on a belt is impossible.

    The magazine capacity is even negotiable. The Glock has a higher capacity which helps with the firepower department but hurts it in the concealment department.

    Overall, I would choose the 1911... But that is me.

    It also depends on what you want the firearm for and how much time you intend spending on the range.
     
  23. HoosierQ

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    Except for caliber, kinda of an apples and oranges comparison here.

    Each one's list of pros somewhat contraindicate the others...steel vs plastic...really good trigger vs a longer pull...single action vs essential double action (a light DA at that), infinite customizability vs fairly limited, fat (G21) vs thinner (1911), lighter (G21) vs heavier (1911), hi-cap vs 7 or 8 rounds, etc.

    Price might be the ultimate deciding factor. There is one G21 (OK maybe 2 for the SF version) and it costs about $600 (give or take 10%) and they're all the same. There are probably 100 1911s and cost from about $600 (give or take 10%) all the way up to probably $3000 with quite a divergence of features and quality.

    So if you "decide" to get a 1911, you actually have an even bigger decision which follows.

    Decide on a Glock, you'll lay down $600 and get yourself a great gun and that'll be that.
     
  24. SureThing

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    Maybe a CZ 97 or Elite Match/?
     
  25. james_bond

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    Well make sure you at least look at the XD-45, I love mine. but out of the 1911 or the G21 I say the 1911, but it is twice the price.
     
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