1st person arrested under New York's new SAFE Act

[hso]

The funny thing is that every single person posting on this forum has probably committed a felony in their lives, but just didn't get caught/prosecuted.

No, most of us here haven't unwittingly committed a felony.
Misdemeanors, probably, but not felonies.

 

[itsa pain]

if you haven't unknowingly committed a felony then you must have never left the room you were born in

 

[ACP]

BTW, hso hit the nail on the head -- we should all be calling/writing the newspaper to tell them their lede and headline are wrong -- this guy would have been arrested under OLD NY laws, not just the new ones, so stop trying to sell me month-old bread..

The media are 1000% ignorant on even the most basic firearms facts and background.

 

[r1derbike]

The funny thing is that every single person posting on this forum has probably committed a felony in their lives, but just didn't get caught/prosecuted. Probably not even knowing what they did was illegal or a felony. The amount of laws that carry felon penalties in this country is astronomical. We're all felons.

Wait a minute. We're all guilty until proven innocent?

 

[slimjimriggins]

http://www.thecowl.com/commentary/how-people-actually-commit-three-felonies-a-day-1.2813861

Apparently many people unknowingly commit felonies every day.

 

[itsa pain]

it seems I never read about police who say they are on our side going undercover to buy or sell guns to or from gang members hmmmm

 

[cambeul41]

Wait a minute. We're all guilty until proven innocent?

Guilt or innocence is a matter of fact, not finding.

Our presmption of innocence until proven guilty is not a matter of being innocent before being "proven" guilty.

 

[murphys_law]

Guy is obviously an idiot. They will be looking for every instance like this they can find to show why these laws are "necessary" or "work." If what the press release said was true I hope he gets his honestly.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Is it illegal to sell a firearm to a person who says they are a felon, and is believed by the seller to be a felon, when the person is not in fact a felon?

Edited

It seems it could be.
A mistake of fact, the intended seller was not a felon, might not be enough to avoid conviction for attempt.

 

[SuperNaut]

http://www.thecowl.com/commentary/how-people-actually-commit-three-felonies-a-day-1.2813861

Apparently many people unknowingly commit felonies every day.

Yup, if you are a file sharer (100+ shares) you are most likely committing a felony.

 

[r1derbike]

Guilt or innocence is a matter of fact, not finding.

Our presmption of innocence until proven guilty is not a matter of being innocent before being "proven" guilty.

I see my attempt at humor was missed...

It will be interesting to stay on top of this case.

 

[seeker_two]

Question: How do we know that the LEO is telling the truth?....

 

[biohazurd]

Ive always wanted to visit NYC,(basically for all the awesome restaurants, Im a foody and musican as well as a active shooter and hunter.) But thats out of the question. Even before the new "Safe" law was in effect, Ive made the conscience decision to not travel to any state that does not acknowledge my CCP. I refuse to risk my and my families safety as well as add to the tourist revenue of an obviosly anti 2nd amendment state.


Someday i pray that all the states in the union have the gun laws that my native South Dakota has me accustomed to.

 

[barnbwt]

Under the SAFE Act, it is illegal to sell an AR-10 to a felon.

Uh, what? Let's give credit where credit is due, reporters of America . I'd have written it "Under the SAFE Act, it is legal to sell a K31 to a felon"--that's technically just as truthy

We'd really have a better system if all laws (jay-walking to murder) sunsetted after ten years. The lawmakers would get to feel all important and fuzzy passing the same "critical laws to protect our children" as always, but they'd never pile up into a heap of unenforceable garbage like we have now. It's the perfect solution to keep these dummies entertained while holding their offices (their boredom being the source of most of our creeping incrementalist law problems)

It's still possible this could go to higher court. Selling to a felon is an obvious no-no he could plead out to or be convicted of, but he would still have standing to appeal the additional penalites he sustains by commiting the crime with a specific object. The smartest move (and worst for us) by NY would be to only enforce this law as an add-on to more serious crimes. We never get our white knight Supreme Court plaintiff, and everyone else is still coerced into complying (just to be on the safe side, you know). That's basically how 922r is enforced, and many many people comply with that stupid law (at least, those who are even aware of it )

TCB

 

[Elkins45]

and don't forget his Cheez-it's (those are Bloombergs weakness don't ya know!)

Bloomberg's real weakness is his low IQ.

 

[Trent]

During the investigation, prosecutors say, the undercover officer told Wassell that he or she was a convicted felon. Under the SAFE Act, it is illegal to sell an AR-10 to a felon.

SHOULD READ:

Under the 1968 Federal Gun Control Act, it is illegal to sell an AR-10 to a felon.

The law has been on the books already for 45 YEARS.

 

[Trent]

Question: How do we know that the LEO is telling the truth?....

From the USA Today link, it sounded like they recorded the whole thing.

 

[itsa pain]

the only felony that should maybe prevent someone from getting a gun is a very very violent crime with a weapon where someone dies or is laid up in a hospital and I do not mean a fist fight