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    I don't know when but it was many moons ago I saw a bag of number 2 lead back when bags of lead shot could be had for $25 or less and I figured what the hell. The number 2 shot was cheaper because the shop ordered a bag and it sat on the shelf for a while until I showed up.
    I loaded up my boring standard velocity 12 gauge 1 and 1/8 ounce shot shell loading with number 2.
    Those were pretty vicious on coons and skunks.
    Results were compelling so then loaded up my higher velocity 1 and 7/8 ounce turkey/coyote load.
    Those are absolutely brutal, on both ends.

    To supplement my big bird shot supply I was thinking about loading lead T shot.
    Has anyone ever used lead T on coyotes?
    It's almost buckshot.
     
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    I have never seen lead T shot. Biggest lead I remember before you get into buckshot was BB.
     
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    I have quite a bit of factory lead loads squirreled away in BB and #2 shot, plated and non-plated shot. Both in 10 gauge and 12 gauge. I used to hunt coyote and fox with them when it was worthwhile for fur. I don't ever recall seeing lead T shot, only when steel came out had I ever even seen that offering.

    Unless you have a reloading shop that carries large size shot, about the only place you will find large shot sizes is by ordering them. Ballistic Products has an immense selection of bulk shot. Every size you can come up with, B, BB, BBB, T, TT, F, etc...
     
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    A while back I actually tried some handloads using size F lead shot in 12 gauge. They penetrated surprising well in my informal gel tests.
     
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    I might try lead BB too.
     
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    I have some factory 12 gauge lead bb loads that work a treat on larger varmints. Ounce and an eighth if I remember right. Good penetration out to about 50 yards out of the old 1897. Coons and possums need only one center mass shot and are stopped in their tracks. Yotes need a solid hit in the head/neck unless fairly close. They still do the job though, and the old 97 holds a good pattern out to about 60 yards. Anything further is rifle work.

    I also recently found some 16 gauge AAA shot (same as T) at a lgs that does well on the larger stuff. Doesn't pattern as well out of my old full choke guns as smaller shot, but it does well enough at 30 yards to make a coin drt. I only managed one yote with them though, and it required the second barrel at +/- 40 yards. Not as much oomph as I'd like, but they're ok.

    Personally, I like #2 lead for the bigger stuff, as it seems to work much better. More velocity I guess. You might find the same is true for you.

    Mac
     
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    Thought I knew a bit about shotgun loadings but shot sizes listed as letters (except for BB) aren't something I'm familiar with. Can someone enlighten me - or send me to a chart that shows diameters, etc. I'm pretty familiar with shot sizes for small game although I haven't hunted in years, and I real familiar with buckshot sizings and loads - but the letter sizes have me scratching my head.
     
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    BBB, T and F were popularized when steel shot was mandated for waterfowl; Tungsten and Bismuth weren't available yet, and the only way to increase lethality was to go to 3' (and eventually 3 1/2") Magnums and bigger shot sizes. I still have several boxes of 3" BBB, T and F left over form when I quit hunting ducks and geese.
     
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    T shot is close to number 4 buck shot.
    Instead of about 40 number 4 buck pellets in a 3 inch magnum 12 gauge shell I should be able to cram in more like 65 to 70 in there.
    I will be sure to test it on coyotes.
    I would like something smaller and more numerous than number 4 buck shot but still big enough that it can break a leg or 3.
    F shot is virtually number 4 buck, there may not be any noticeable difference between the 2.
     
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    Lead "T" buckshot runs 37 pellets to the ounce or just under 12 grains per pellet.

    I recall reading that lead T buckshot was a popular size for hunting Brocket Deer in Central and South America before WWII.
     
  12. Snowdog

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    Looks like F and T are quite close to #4 buck

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