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2 stage or drop in trigger

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by rdnktrkr, Aug 16, 2021.

  1. rdnktrkr

    rdnktrkr Member

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    I'm looking at building another AR and found a 2 stage nickel boron trigger with a 2lb pull then a 4.5lb pull that claims to be adjustable, the other is a Rise Armament 3.5lb drop in, the prices are about $20 apart with the drop in being a little more, this will be used for hunting and range time. I'm debating between a 350 Legend or a 458socom/450bushmaster.
     
  2. earlthegoat2

    earlthegoat2 Member

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    I have and would recommend a Rise single stage. 3.5#

    On my 350 Leg and 450 BM.

    I like them better than the LaRue MBT.
     
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  3. taliv

    taliv Moderator Staff Member

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    I would not put a 2 lb trigger on a heavy recoiling AR.

    a 2 stage trigger with 3-4lb on the first stage and 1-2 lb on the second stage is what you want. That’s the reason 2 stage triggers exist: so you can have a safe overall weight but still have fine control over when it goes bang
     
  4. 12Bravo20

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    I'm with @taliv on this. I don't want a light 2 lb trigger on a hunting rifle. For target rifles they are nice to have. I personally would stick with a good 2 stage trigger on a hunting rifle.

    But then again, triggers and what people prefer is subjective, everyone likes something different.
     
  5. wiscoaster

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    I agree....conditionally. I have an AR I replaced the trigger with a light-weight single stage. After having the rifle in storage for over a year I found that I had a couple "premature" discharges the first time I took it out to the range. This is a trigger and rifle combo so different from the rifles I usually shoot: milsurps with two-stage heavy triggers. I suppose it's OK if it's the only AR you have and you get used to its characteristics. But if you have a bunch of rifles and this rifle only gets shot occasionally, such a light-weight trigger can be problematic (and potentially dangerous if you get sloppy about your muzzle discpline and manual of arms).
     
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  6. mcb

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    There is no accounting for tastes or trigger preferences...

    I am a fan of two stage AR triggers. I only have one AR with a single stage trigger. That said I would pass on economical adjustable triggers in an AR. I have had too many adjust themselves.

    I am currently running Geissele G2S in my 450 Bushmaster, very nice trigger. The LaRue MBT is good to but the trigger bow never felt right to my finger, to flat side to side.

    I have several DPMS 2-stage triggers but I would steer clear of them unless you know their vintage. While Remington owned DPMS they made some really bad DPMS two stages an some very good ones. There are easier to get triggers that are equal or better.

    Some of the cartridge triggers (like Timney and Trigger Tech) can be extraordinary in quality and price. There is a plethora of trigger out there from dirt cheap to very expensive. Do some more research.
     
  7. DustyGmt

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    +1 on Geissele 2S or SSA. 1st stage pull weight 2.75-3lb 2nd stage 1.5-1.75 seems about perfect for a heavier recoiling AR.

    Crisp, Predictable, precise. Not too light and very clean break. About $165-$230 depending on model.
     
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  8. Riomouse911

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    I have Rise 4.5 pound triggers on two AR rifles I have set up for HD and/or SHTF scenarios, and four “target” rifles with Rise 3.5 pound triggers. My 7.62x39 AR has an extra power hammer spring set up, so I left that alone.

    Every one has been, IMHO, an improvement over what came stock… in a couple of cases a significant improvement.

    My only “meh” about the Rise triggers are the anti walk pins that come with them. They are one size fits all, so they would have had to be ground down a bit to fit all of my receivers without one side sticking up a little bit. I didn’t want to fool with that so I just used my standard pins and all is great.

    I didn’t want to spend well over a grand outfitting my various guns so I shopped around found these on sale. I bought one, liked it, then bought the others. There are certainly more refined triggers out there, but for me I’m happy where I am and still had North of $500 bucks left over when I was done.

    YMMV. :)

    Stay safe.
     
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  9. cornfused

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    I too use the Rise Armament triggers (3.5 lb). I bought one because I was so disappointed in the trigger in my first build that something had to change. I picked one up for less than $100 and really liked it. I bought 2 more on sale for a couple other builds and so far I can't say anything bad about them. Easy to install, great trigger pull (much like a good bolt gun) and so far trouble free.
     
  10. Chuck R.

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    Geissele's here also, I've got 4 SSA-Es and one SD-E.

    The only non-Geissele AR15 trigger I own is a Larue MBT-2 as i like to keep my triggers similar. Due to the two stage design I don't worry about using the SSA-E in defensive or hunting AR15s.
     
  11. browneu

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    I do the same thing with keeping my triggers similar with all of my ARs. Only own Geissele triggers as it's what I'm used to.
     
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  12. rdnktrkr

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    Thank everyone for the replies, I decided to get the drop-in trigger, I will install it on my 6.5 Grendel and use the polished trigger in it for my new build. I found them on sale with a "lite" LPK and pins for $110 so I'm thinking about getting a spare.
     
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