2 to 1 Point Slings for AR15 - Thoughts?

[allivak]

Hey guys I'm looking for a good 2 to 1 sling to throw on my AR15 and I'm on a budget....i'm not an operator so I dont need to spend the money on a Vickers/VTAC/Magpul or whatever all the rage is these days.

i was looking at this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A2MACEUBGQY0BH

also just considering buying a quality but affordable 2 point sling and using one of these:

http://www.impactweaponscomponents....ads-into-your-sling-and-makes-it-convertible/


any opinions or thoughts? I'd really like to stay under $30.

Thanks

 

[westy39]

I'm not "an operator" either so I just use a regular rifle sling. That cost me about $15.00 at a pawn shop. I will have to admit the one point slings look so cool but I am at the age I don't really care about cool. I care about costs and function. That's just me, your mileage may vary so to speak.

 

[GRIZ22]

One point slings are useless. The only thing they do is let your rifle bang against your knees and don't give you an option to get your rifle out of the way.

 

[M-Cameron]

One point slings are useless. The only thing they do is let your rifle bang against your knees and don't give you an option to get your rifle out of the way.

single point slings are great if you are wearing a chest rig or a plate carrier.....and they allow you to easily transition from a resting position to a shouldered position.

and they slide out of the way just as easily as any other sling....

 

[CraigC]

I'm not an operator either but I can really appreciate how good a sling the VTAC is. Which is why I have them on every "black" (or green, or FDE) rifle I own. Cool has nothing to do with it. They work, brilliantly.

 

[allivak]

thanks for the replies....all I meant with the operator comment is that I'm not going to war with this weapon system and that I definitely believe in the idea that form should follow function, especially with something like a sling. it was merely an attempt at humor with a dose of humility....it certainly was not meant to offend people with those particular slings(which are high quality).

anyways, here is a link to the 2 point sling I've been considering:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_5&smid=A12D0R2TG9MFIF

i guess the main reason I was focused on a 2 to 1 sling is because it would offer some more options and flexibility across a wider range of uses....

 

[GRIZ22]

Single point slings are good for a rest position to shouldered. However, if you need both hands they do slide away but your weapon is flopping around on a single point.

 

[1911 guy]

I'm going to be "That Guy". My opinion is that you should spring for a decent sling right off the bat, even if you don't plan to use the "tacticool" stuff.

For example, I got a Magpul sling. Works great as a traditional sling, can loop up tight for "traditional" shooting and you can leave the hooks on the front and rear swivels.

The Vickers sling can be used the same way. Whichever you buy, you'll have a good quality sling. Should you decide later you want to reconfigure it, all you need is a receiver end plate, not the end plate and a new sling.

 

[Steve in PA]

Single point slings have a very, very limited use. As already pointed out, let go of the rifle and it flops around, bangs your knees, bangs you in the junk, etc. Try doing something that requires the use of both hands; going hands on with a person, climbing a ladder, etc. Kneel down....the muzzle is going in the ground. There are numerous reasons why a single point sling is bad.

Get a two point sling and be done with it. If you feel the need, you can even buy a sling that can be used both as a two or one point sling.

 

[Nature Boy]

I'm a fan of this one

http://www.zahal.org/products/sayeret-special-forces-2-point-rifle-sling?path_parent=153457

 

[taliv]

what kind of connectors do you have on your rifle? the HK style clips in the first one won't work with flush cups or uncle mikes swivels very well.

i have an armageddon gear sling that is awesome and has something like the triglide in your second link. it works great.

the paracord sling in your third link is just wasting your money. what are you going to do? unravel it to use the cord then tie it back together? ridiculous. and it doesn't appear to accomplish anything you asked for, and it's not clear that it has any connectors at all from the poor pictures.

 

[rbernie]

Woven paracord is great for picking up grit and holding it, and I avoid it. OTOH, I do like those triglide QD thingees - I'm gonna have to get me a coupe and try 'em out.

 

[Old Dog]

My opinion is that you should spring for a decent sling right off the bat, even if you don't plan to use the "tacticool" stuff.

Yep. Anyway, you can get a decent sling of the type the OP described for around $40, only a bit over his threshold. I've got both the MagPul MS3 and a Vickers.

For me though, I can't think of one instance where I've ever used the single-point feature of any sling. (Well, when we had single-point bungee slings on our patrol rifles and used to do transition drills, the drawback to the single-point sling became quickly apparent as none of us wore cups to the range ... after a while, we quietly installed some nice tactical slings).

 

[taliv]

i use the single point feature quite a bit. when i'm mostly carrying, i use 2 point. when i am mostly shooting, i switch to 1 point. i shoot carbine on an unimproved 'range' that's nothing but hills and grass, so i tend to carry or wear everything instead of having range bags on tables etc. so a sling on a rifle is pretty handy as i'm usually still wearing the rifle instead of setting it on the ground or table to load mags or whatever.

1 point makes it much easier to do things like mag changes (all the more reason to practice with 2point)

 

[1911 guy]

That's the thing most people don't realize about single point slings. They're not meant as a way to conveniently carry your rifle. Because it's not usually convenient. What they do very well, though, it allow you to have retention (it's strapped to your body), maneuverability (switching from right to left side) and handling (everything from malfunction drills to mag changes is easier with a single point). When you need to actually sling and carry the rifle, it takes less than five seconds to change the location of the clips (receiver end plate to front and rear swivels).

And the guy who invented the bungee sling should be punched in the cookies by everyone who was ever forced to use one.

 

[Young&Ret.]

2 point is a great idea that won't do you wrong. Its practical and functional for most conditions. The 1 point is purpose driven design that you might find usefull in urban combative situations Ex: transport high priority target securely across hostile city in civilian sedan undetected. Some people say its faster when transitioning to a side arm... proven false. If your going to a range or hunting a 1 point is definetly going to be more trouble than its worth. The exception is on a very short platform such as mp5, ar pistol or a p90 that requires a rapid concealed to ready transition in a confined area such as car, narrow hall, stairs ect...

If a civilian just likes the idea of being excessively tactical or just slightly more comfortable while entering and exiting a vehicle with a short to mid length rifle attached to their body, good for them.

All IMHO of course. A 1point is self inflicted torture unless it's sold with an athletic cup. Plus, with practice and the proper setup you can get better stability from a loop sling and shoulder bump faster using the 2 point.

 

[allivak]

thanks for all the replies....I don't have any connectors yet because I was waiting to see what sort of sling I bought. my stock is a MFT Minimalist which has atleast one QD socket and a few areas to run a strap directly, otherwise I don't have any connectors on my AR.

as far as the Paracord Sling....the reason I liked it is because the paracord just serves as some padding and can be removed and still have a functional sling. i wasn't aware of its tendency to hold muck/etc but again, I'm mostly using this gun as a range toy and maybe home defense so I don't think it would be an issue anyways.

so I guess I'm back to square one. I still like the idea of a sling that can be used in both single and 2pt configurations because I don't see any real disadvantage. I'm really considering just finding a nice 2pt and using that triglide I linked above to give me the best of both worlds. so best 2pt sling under $30?

 

[taliv]

man, if you are really on a $30 budget, then you should make a sling.

https://www.ahh.biz/hardware/military/buckles/buckle_side_release_plastic_25mm_milspec.php

there are about a million sites on the internet that will sell cheap plastic buckles and nylon strap. the one above wants 96 cents for a "mil spec" one.

go down to your local hobby lobby and get a heavy needle and thread and do the sewing yourself. it's not hard. you can probably buy the buckles and nylon there too. as well as padding or elastic if you want to add either of those

 

[1911 guy]

Reading your posts again, I have a recommendation.

Buy a Magpul MS3 Gen2. Cost is about 45 dollars, depending on where you get it. However, you'll spend no money on additional attachment points because it goes directly on the existing front and rear sling swivels. Clip it on, lock the clips and you're done.

If you decide you want to go the single point route later, the sling is already capable, you'll just need to add the attachment point on your buffer tube. I like the ASP, but there's a lot of variety out there.

 

[USAF_Vet]

I use a single point sling on my AR pistol, it drops out of the way for easy transition to a side arm without bashing me in the knees.

I'm looking at the same 2 to 1 point sling listed in the OP, for $15, that's not a huge loss if it's crap.

 

[StrutStopper]

I'm looking to add a sling to my first AR build. I've been shooting it at the range with iron sights and no sling, now looking to add to the build. I was thinking about a 2 to 1 point sling to keep my options open, just thinking about what the best type of connectors to use. I'm leaning towards getting a QD end plate and some type of QD socket to add to my MOE handguard. I like the Magpul MS4. Was considering buying a knock off, but will probably go with an original Magpul sling.

 

[Young&Ret.]

Nylon strap+ buckles+ velcro+ needle and thread (sewing machine if you got it)= the best sling you can imagine for $15.00 - $30.00
Or just get the one you want and spend once, cry once.

You could make a 3 point that velcros free into a 2 point, buckles into a 1 point, and easily converts into a loop sling feature. Might be a little similar to the tactical intervention specialists slip cuff tactical rifle sling http://tacticalintervention.com/videos/ the same one that got the contract for the m24. Good luck

 

[strambo]

You're asking for $30, but the VTAC is $39.95 and an exceptional sling. The thing you linked to in Amazon is a crappy issue GI web sling that someone wrapped para-cord around. I get those things issued to me all the time and put up with it for a short training event (like a weekend weapon qual or something), I use one of my personal 2 points for anything else.

If you go cheap, odds are it will suck and you'll either put up with it or buy something better later and then will have spent the $40 plus whatever you did on the cheaper one.

$37.73 http://www.amazon.com/Troy-Industir...4?ie=UTF8&qid=1452312496&sr=8-4&keywords=VTAC

 

[Nature Boy]

All personal preference of course, but I would make a sling from a rhino's butthole before I'd buy one (or anything) from Troy

 

[Jeff White]

You're asking for $30, but the VTAC is $39.95 and an exceptional sling.

I also use the V-Tac. I didn't know Troy was selling a version, I've bought mine from BlueForce Gear. https://www.blueforcegear.com/vickers-sling

Before the days of purpose built "tactical" slings I used everything from the basic USGI top sling adapter kit to various home made creations using USGI slings and 550 cord.

The first "tactical" sling I used was a Giles 3 point from The Wilderness. I never had any problems with it and later bought a couple similar slings from Tactical Taylor, the difference being the webbing was wider. I went to a single point sling when they were all the rage. I never was comfortable with the lack of control of the weapon when it was hanging.

When the Vickers Tactical 2 point came out I bought one and never looked back. I've found that putting a sling swivel at the back of the receiver and one at the back of the rail on the forearm works best for me. I've got the speed and flexibility of a single point and the control of a 2 point.

I use these mounts from Tangodown on my ARs to get the sling swivels at the rear of the receiver. https://tangodown.com/shop/tangodown-pr-4-sling-mount/

https://tangodown.com/shop/tangodown-pr-16a4-fixed-stock/

I like the pushbutton swivels better the putting a plate at the rear of the receiver.

I realize I'm busting your budget. I do agree with Strambo, for a few dollars more, buy the Vickers sling which I think is the best sling available.