2009 - Traditional handguns illegal in NJ

[P95Carry]

I about despair of the logic - rather, the lack of it. Apart from anything else, there are enough ''dumb guns'' out there to keep the crooks supplied until we are all worm fodder. So once again ... BOHICA all legal citizen gun owners.

All the arguments against have been covered - but will this stem the lunacy? Nah - course it won't.

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

READ MY SIGNATURE! ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD LET ELECTRONICS GET IN HIS/HER WAY.

Whew! Had to get that off my chest. I get very frustrated that people can't see the obvious.

 

[jnojr]

I couldn't care less if the smartguns cost $5 and were proven to be 100% reliable - I don't want one. You see, in order for it to be "smart" it must have a chip. That chip will almost certainly, whether "they" tell us or not (and "not" is far more likely), have the ability to receive radio signals.

That's a ridiculous, paranoid statement. No personal offesne intended.

There are lots of things with chips that have no ability whatsoever to receive or send "radio signals". In order for these "smart guns" to be able to receive commands, they would have to have an antenna, power source, a chip capable of recognizing the commands, and the ability to implement them.

If I lived in NJ, and it was 2009, and I had to buy and carry a "smart gun", and it had these "features", I'd have an electronics geek cut out the antenna and shield the nub against receiving anything. There's nothing in the law saying I couldn't do that. Once my electronics geek knew how to do it, he could charge $50 a pop or something, and get rich deactivating that "feature".

Yes, it is theoretically possible that they could build such "features" into guns, but I really doubt it with todays technology. And once they did, they would have to mandate the use of that technology. And then worry about all the people (like criminals!) who disale it anyway. And then there's always the fact that any halway-competent machinist can crank out "dumb" firearms all day long, until steel stock is a "controlled substance".

 

[jnojr]

In December of 2002, New Jersey became the first state to pass legislation specifying that three years after it is determined that personalized handguns are available for retail sale, dealers and manufacturers will not be able to sell, assign or transfer any handgun legally unless it is personalized.

On first reading, I thought "No problem... get every FFL in New Jersey to enter into a compact to not offer these guns." But, second time through, I parsed "available for retail sale" to mean "if it exists, and could potentially be bought by a dealer to offer for sale".

Well, if this does go through, 4 years out to be enough to move out of New Jersey. Virginia isn't too far away

 

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

Tronics observation

jnojr, I'm just waiting for the day when some bright EE figures out that Metalstorm's magic smart-gun ammo can be fired full auto with about $1.39 worth of cheap 7400-series chips.* And no grip recognition needed.

- pdmoderator

[size=-2]* Assuming it can be fired at all, of course.[/size]

 

[Third_Rail]

Shhhhh.... Keep that one quiet.


I thought that very thing when I first heard of Remington's (it was them, I think...) electronically primed ammunition for a hunting rifle.

I REALLY hope e-primed ammo catches on. So much more in terms of fun can be done with it...