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.204 vs. 22-250 vs. 220 swift

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by rhino1957, Dec 8, 2010.

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  1. rhino1957

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    ive been looking rifle calibars and rifles and ive kinda got it down two two calibars .204 and the 22-250 (220 swift is just u think of it it think it is the greatest varmint round that was ever made but the ammo is hard to find and rare that is why i like the 22-250) but mainly i want the opinion on the other 2 the reason i picked these two is because i want something fairly light yet want something that could stop a cyoyte in it tracks at 300 yards i also want somthing very fast and amazingly accurate BUT i also need something thats not going to insanly big, big as in .270
    P.S. i HATE .223s and .308s and for the .223 fans it was UNWANTED by the army develeped by the army then completly dissed so there!:neener:
     
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  2. Jon_Snow

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    If this is true then I can tell you for a fact that .204 isn't for you. I love that caliber, but it turns small varmints inside out. I'd imagine that the 22-250 will do the same, but I have no personal experience there.
     
  3. bobleeswagger

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    You're going to need something that's pretty heavily constructed to make sure you're not blowing up small game like rabbits. IN GENERAL, a .204 and a .22-250 will be firing relatively thinly jacketed bullets. The .204 doesn't have as many options for more heavily constructed bullets as the .22 cal options do, but should still be more than enough coyote medicine at 300. I have a CZ 527 Varmint in .204 that's BAD news for anything yotie sized or smaller.
     
  4. rhino1957

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    the .204 isnt going to take down a deer tho that is wat i term small personally id like to see wat would be better in certain guns to a 22-250 is going to have more of punch but a .204 is going to be faster and (i think more accurite)
     
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    Dude, you aren't making a whole lot of sense so far.

    Any of the three calibers mentioned will blow a rabbit into a fine pink mist at 300 yards.
    3,800 - 4,100 FPS does that, regardless of the bullet selection.

    As for deer?
    Get a deer rifle.
    They ain't that either.

    As for the .308 and .223?
    What are you trying to say?
    I got lost on the "REGECTED" word you used!

    rc
     
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    This IS The High Road, so I'll just suggest reading post # 5 twice.
     
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    If you have fast it will blow up your rabbit and that goes for all 3 rounds regardless of the bullet. All are amazingly accurate.
     
  8. rhino1957

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    sorry let me refrase that i need some thing that isnt going to be like a 300 h&h mag on a coon and somthing that could possibly drop a deer im open to other calibers aslong as its not a .223 or a .308 specs are not good sorry:evil:
     
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  9. Geno

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    Per the OP's redirect:

    Look to a .243 Win, or a .260 Rem. They shoot extremely flat with light bullets, and hit hard with medium to heavy bullets.

    Geno
     
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    Got lost on that whole sentence...

    Ummm, anything in that "family" is going to absolutely destroy small game...

    I say get yourself a 222rem and call it a day...:neener:
     
  11. rhino1957

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    sorry about the spelling yes the sentence was messed up i ment to say rejected.
    Oh also i forgot to say that i need somthing with fairly cheap ammo.
     
  12. Bill B.

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    Get 2 rifles: a .22 LR & a .257 Roberts :rolleyes::D
     
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    the only problem is i can only spend about $300 on a rifle $450 max
     
  14. PT1911

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    Cheap ammo= nothing you have mentioned...

    For cheap ammo, you need something military surplus or you need to reload.

    I suggest you reconsider the .223/5.56 as it has "good" performance out to 300 yds and, though hard on varmints, it wont "mist" them.

    If you cut your range to 150-200 yds, the .22 mag and 17HMR come to mind and are fairly cheap in the grand scheme of things...

    For my newest varmint gun/ range toy is a cz 452 in 17 machII... even with it i will need to stick to head shots if I plan to use the rabbits and squirrels.
     
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    cheap as in $10 to $20 a box
     
  16. PT1911

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    factory produced 204, 22-250, 220 swift...etc, will run you more along the lines of 25-35, even .223 in soft points runs pretty close to $30 per box nowadays..

    Rimfires may not be on your radar, but perhaps they should be.

    The only way you will get affordable ammunition in your stated cartridges is to reload... AND then, you can load them down, i suppose, to gain your wanted affect on those pesky wabbits.
     
  17. rhino1957

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    well they are but as a second gun i need somthing that i can be accurate at like 300 yds but not to big like a .243. A .243 is a great round tho
     
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    Not familiar with the .204 other than read about them...I know many that have used the .220 swift for deer:what:...Similar with the 22-250:eek:

    So before any go insane and say they would never do it, just wanted to say many have ;)

    The selection of bullet is important and handloading is the only way you get the best use out of the ones you have chosen...

    I don't feel you have to be ashamed of using them in your above mentioned items...

    But I would opt for a 6mm cal for deer to be honest...The ones using 220 and 22-250, were excellent shots and men who did not shot unless they had the shot they wanted...

    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=918837

    Same way with rabbits shoot them w/^^^ and see if you can live with the outcome:D
     
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    Quoted from OP:

    "the only problem is i can only spend about $300 on a rifle $450 max"

    Why did you bother asking?
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    I say you would be best served with the .223, but since that is not an option, I suggest you go with the 22-250 as it seems that more ammo is available cheaper if you look for it.. It is also a big favorite of a friend... MAYBE that is why I place it second. As to what rifles to look for... that may have to be your first course of action... FInd a rifle in your budget and then choose the cartridge based on what the manufacturer offers. I will say that rifles that are capable of somewhat long range accuracy and available in your stated cartridges are typically not very cheap. You will probably be restricted to savage/marlin offerings.. Nothing wrong with them, just giving you a place to start.

    If you can up the budget a bit the cz 527 in 204 would be sweet....
     
  21. rhino1957

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    wadda mean
     
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    Boy did I get a bargain. Just bought my first 2 boxes of factory ammo in 8 years. Bought 2 boxes of Winchester 55 gr .22-250 at $20 a box. I was somewhat shocked but needed the ammo.

    I remember when I bought a .223 about 8 years ago. At the time I bought 4 boxes of Federal bulk pack 50 gr hps. The price was pretty cheap for 800 rounds. I've since sold the rifle but I'm holding on to the ammo just in case I end up with another .223.
     
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    I beg to differ. The 204 knocks down a deer quite well. I didn't read what the op was wanting to do with the rabbits, but if you shoot them in the head, it will take the head off leaving the rest of the rabbit.
     
  25. rhino1957

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    Really:D how many yards and how many grain:confused:
     
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