209 primer availability

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  1. whisler

    whisler Member

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    Anyone know of any 209 primers available near Petaluma CA? A friend needs some for a muzzleloader hunt and can't find any.
     
  2. N555

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    Remember you want muzzle loading 209 primers, not shotgun 209 primers.
     
  3. kalielkslayer

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    I see Cheddite 209s regularly on line at Brownells, Ballistic Products and Precision Reloading. But they sell em either 1,000, or 5,000 at a time. Not sure that’s what you’re looking for.

    The Sportsmans Warehouse in Reno has had Cheddite 209s by the sleeve the last couple of times I was in there.

    I use em like Win 209s in my shotgun loads, although I use Win 209s for my muzzleloader.
     
  4. N555

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    My FPS standard deviation was all over the place using shotgun 209 primers with my accurate muzzle loader load or 70gr.
    If I was loading 150gr and exploding milk jugs at 25yd it didn't matter.
     
  5. paul harm

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    N555, did you try different powder charges with the shotgun 209 primers ? Aren't the muzzle loading primers just hotter than normal shotgun primers ? If so, and the SG primer will set off the gun every time, then you just need to find the right powder charge for group. JMHO.
    Sorry, no I don't know where any are. I've been shooting MLers from 1970 but have only used caps, flints, or a burning rope. Good luck in your search.
     
  6. N555

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    Muzzle loader primers are a lot softer than shotgun 209 primers.
    As best I can figure muzzle loader 209s, musket caps and number 11s use around 0.3 grains of primer material.
    A standard non-magnum 209 uses around 1.2gr.
    My extreme spread using shotgun 209s was something like 300fps, on my most accurate 70gr load.
    My milk jug exploder load using 150gr was like 100fps ES, but those shot kind of all over the place to the point where I wouldn't want to try and shoot a deer with it at 100yds and didn't matter if I used no#11, musket, shotgun 209s or BP 209s.
     
  7. steveus101

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    Not if he's using Blackhorn 209, which is ALL I use.
     
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