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.22 CCi shorts. 750-ish fps 29gn???

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Mark_Mark, Jun 16, 2021.

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  1. Mark_Mark

    Mark_Mark Contributing Member

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    Just scored some .22 Short CCi and I have no idea what to do with it. It was $7.50 a box/100 at Walmart! had to get it!

    What do people use this ammo for?
     
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  2. Mark_Mark

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    here is a stock photo, I can take a photo of the real deal if needed

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  3. reloaded_in_pa

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    Plinking rounds. Also good for suppressed shooting.
     
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    Looks pretty similar to the CCI Quiet-22...
    As @reloaded_in_pa stated---good for suppressed...
    710 FPS may not cycle some semi auto actions, tho.
     
  5. Mark_Mark

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    I think I’ll give it to the kids… just wanted to buy something again. Love some Walmart ! no price gouging
     
  6. beag_nut

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    My Single-Ten eats them just fine. And point of impact at 50 feet almost the same as a standard .22LR. Powerful enough at that distance to smack a squirrel.
     
  7. Carl N. Brown

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    The CCI .22 CB rounds have been around a few decades.
    They fill the niche of the 19th Century BB and CB rimfire cartridges: relatively quiet short range target practice, small pest control.

    The CCI .22 CB Short and CB Long fire a 29 grain bullet at 720 feet per second, about the velocity of an adult air rifle designed for pest control or target.
    High velocity .22 Short and .22 Long fire a 29 gr bullet at 1300fps with over three times the impact energy.
    Standard velocity .22 Short and .22 Long at ~1060fps still have a lot of penetration and noise, especially if you are shooting pests around a barn with livestock.

    CCI Quiet .22 is what I like to call CB Long Rifle: 40 gr bullet at 710 fps.
    A lot of modern .22s are designed for long rifle only and won't feed short or long very well and some don't eject short cases reliably.
    So Quiet .22 is a CB for .22 long rifle only gun owners.

    My AR-7 shoots Quiet .22 as a straight pull bolt action.
    My Nylon 66 ejects Quiet .22 but does not recock the striker or feed a cartridge: I get auto ejection, but I still have to manually pull the bolt back and release to cock and feed.

    CCI has a Quiet .22 with a heavier 45 grain bullet that supposedly generates enough recoil at 710 fps to operate most semi-autos that work with standard velocity .22 LR (40gr at 1060 fps).
     
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  8. GeoDudeFlorida

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    Do yourself a Yuuuge favor and go buy a Henry pump action .22 setup a tent and some old bookcases and buy some old duck decoys. Those shorts are near perfect gallery loads. Teach the kids accuracy and have tons of fun at the same time. Course you’ll need to come up with some prizes, too

    There are lots of older lever, pump and bolt rifles that will feed them but the Henry can be had fairly cheap and isn’t a rare collectible made of unobtainium.
     
  9. Mark_Mark

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    I got curious and looked up .22 Shorts and was suppressed to see speeds of 1300fps!

    That’s amazing for such a short cartridge
     
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  10. Mark_Mark

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    thanks! I’m looking into some cool .22 bolt guns! I’ve never shot pump action .22, but that sounds fun!
     
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  11. Carl N. Brown

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    I have some Winchester Super X yellow box .22 Short High Velocity.
    I have CCI .22 CB Shorts. Almost the difference between thunder and a hiccup.
     
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  12. Mark_Mark

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    I always wanted to eat a squirrels! But, I find them kinda cute! I also thought Bass was cute too until I fried it up! Taste SO GOOD
     
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    The barrels rifling twist is different for shorts, at least in High Standard Pistols. Hurts accuracy.
     
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  14. Mark_Mark

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    Amazing! didn’t know .22 was so everywhere!
     
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  15. Carl N. Brown

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    My sons and I would go to an abandoned rock quarry that then was just outside the city limits.
    CB Longs would sink an aluminum can in the quarry pond just as well as .22 LR high velocity.
    But from a rifle with CB Longs you could hear the firing pin click and the can plink and did not need ear plugs.
    The noise did not carry outside the pit.
     
  16. jmorris

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    Seems like some buy it just to make sure nothing stays on a shelf…

    You do realize you can buy ammunition, that you might be more likely use direct from CCI, right?

    https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/

    It is at the higher MSRP but still cheaper than folks looking to take advantage of others.
     
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  17. kidneyboy

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    I use 22 shorts of all varieties in my Henry 22 and occasionally in my 22 revolvers. I can load 21 in my Henry and the CB variety are quieter than my pellet guns. Great for quiet plinking, squirrels, chipmunks, golf balls.
     
  18. troy fairweather

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    I killed 5-6 wokdchucks last year with shorts, a few others with cb longs and one with the Aquila as 60gr all head shots from the house window. 2 of the shorts even passed through the Entire length of the woodchucks so don't underestimate them, these were all at 15 yards.

    Are shed has some more under it this year, they only come out early morning or before dark. These round are very quiet and my rem model 33 shoots them very good.
     
  19. ArchAngelCD

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    I use then in a single shot bolt action youth rifle to teach the grandchildren how to shoot. They are low noise so no flinch from the young ones.

    For pest control is use the CCI Quiet-22 ammo. (#960)
     
  20. RedlegRick

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    I use them to feed my critter-gitter, quieter than a lot of air rifles I've tried. Single shot bolt, so no bother with feeding or extraction to worry about. For some reason, that brand tends to shoot high for how its sighted in, more than the Aquila offering, sometimes as much as an inch. I just have to compensate for it, not an issue. They will kill a Norway rat if you put them in the right spot.
     
  21. Mark_Mark

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    I have not bought ammo in years, Just having fun, King Country is 70% vax and everyone is out having a good time! So I thought a few boxes of .22 would be fun
     
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  22. Cokeman

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    You can load them in a Henry on Sunday and shoot all week.
     
  23. jmorris

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    Fair enough, if the firearm is normally operated with long rifle, the CCI long CB’s (center) are identical in every way except in how they foul the chamber. Will also feed from magazines the shorts will not.

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  24. sota

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    I keep a stash of -short's here, for when I'm taking a particularly sensitive (i.e.: scared) subject shooting for the first time. they won't cycle a semi-auto, making it a single shot until you rack it, and are virtually no recoil in a S&W 617 4". So far they've worked well for that.
     
  25. Howa 9700

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    One of the enduring guns in my life is a Remington Targetmaster 10.......a single shot bolt gun. First gun I ever shot that burned powder, and only seen shorts in it for 90% of it's use. Everything from plugging sparrows and starlings to used it to head shots on coons when coon hounds treed one. One shot to the head and down they'd come.

    Same Targetmaster showed up at 4H camp to teach kids gun handling and marksmanship. They had about 10 of them.

    The old Targetmaster is still around and is still used to dispatch cage caught coons. Gave the barrel a good going over a month or so back. Fault of using shorts extensively in a gun of this type is you eventually develop extraction problems with LR. For that reason, if I was using shorts in a gun a lot, I'd want one dedicated to such use. Don't think anyone in modern era has made one chambered for .22 exclusively.

    You might think that much jump would affect accuracy, but was no problem with ours. On a slow day, target shooting for me was aiming at the head of nails used to hold a board fence on in our barn lot. At 30 feet, could hit them reliably.

    To me, a .22 of some type.....one capable of handling shorts is an essential part of any proper arsenal.
     
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