.22 pistol in your defensive battery of guns...

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  1. lsudave

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    Thanks, I'll do what has worked for me. I fully endorse that we have the right to carry, and by all means carry whatever you feel comfortable with. No handgun is a guaranteed win. Lots of times we are in positions to have no handgun. I can't carry at work, as it's illegal and I prefer to stay licensed in my profession and keep my job. Awareness of your surroundings is and remains the biggest means of self-preservation; you could be carrying a 10mm and if taken unawares it's useless.

    OP asked if any of us have a place for .22 in our self-defense options, I answered "yes". YMMV. It's a personal question, not a right or wrong question. I also have .45, 9mm, (which are basically interchangeable), have some 7.62x25 on the way (both for fun, and to have additional caliber options), have 9x18, .32, 6 variations of 30 caliber rifle and 223/556. Also 12 gauge in full and mini shell configuration. Also knives, both small and large, and several variants of club/truncheon, some that are also lights. Any of which I would not hesitate to use to defend myself, from man or beast.
    Someone said 'plan accordingly', I've already stated a circumstance where a small .22 is preferable to a larger gun.

    Not to veer totally off topic, but let's be fair with this. If you have a "mindless horde" after you, a couple magazines of anything isn't going to be that good. One major benefit for .22lr in SHTF scenarios is that you can carry a lot of ammo easily.
     
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  2. Mosin77

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    I think .22 has its place, with “premium” ammo in a compact-full size pistol for the recoil-sensitive, it’s a compelling choice. It also has its place in the ultra-concealable side of things, with something like an NAA Mini Revolver, as a backup gun, backup to the backup, swimsuit carry, or just something to put in your pocket when you go out -zero excuse not to have at least 5 rounds of 22lr on tap.

    Would it be my first choice for home defense? Definitely not. But I’d pick an NAA over a baseball bat, and an m&p 22 over the NAA. But if I’m making the effort to carry a gun, make mine a .380 or 9mm.
     
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  3. Vern Humphrey

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    If the zombies are coming, you better carry a lot of ammo, easy or not. :)
     
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    I bought a belly band to wear my P238 with while I run; got it from the NRA store and I am very impressed! I have carried a G19 running it and my XDS45 and no movement at all.
     
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    sure glad I have a Ruger Standard, I can whip off 300 rounds, and not blink an eye. a little less liberal with the more expensive rounds lately.
     
  6. Vern Humphrey

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    I look for sales and good prices, and buy then by the case. I usually have 20-25,000 rounds on hand.
     
  7. Old Hat

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    .22lr.... only in a wheelgun for me.

    .22lr, because its a rimfire primed cartridge, will not, can not ever be reliable enough to rely on for that potential situation when your next round has to fire.

    At least in a wheelgun DA you can just pull again.

    But no, I wouldn’t ever choose a .22lr. Another problem is ballistics out of barrels less than 16” are very very unsatisfactory penetration. Very bad.

    .22lr cartridge, the lr part, stands for “long rifle”. That’s what the cartridge was designed for.
     
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  8. Terry G

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    I bought this little PT22 for my Wife. She liked it and it was completely reliable with Stingers and CCI Mini-Mags. I did some tests on penetration and re-thought the whole "Mouse Gun" plan. She finally wanted to carry a CZ82 ! She hit with it fine and was confident so that was that. I stuck the Taurus in the safe and for got about it until I saw the post on these little guns. I took the PT22 out and tried at 10 and fifteen yards. As you can see the shot spread is apparent at 15 yards, not helped by the Federal Standard Velocity ammunition that I had to cycle by hand. The better group in the center is at ten yards with Stinger and Aguila IMG_0229.JPG IMG_0221.JPG Gold HV. The little Taurus would be better than nothing, but I would be running as I shot it.,
     
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    A well placed .22LR is better than a sharp stick, unless that sharp stick is a 9mm.
     
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    But why would you only carry a sharp stick when you could carry an M1911?
     
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    It is definitely a whole lot better than nothing but it'd be a long way from my primary. I could maybe see it as a last ditch backup or something to stash in a bugout bag or something.
     
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    I really like 22 mag, but I wont carry one for SD
     
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    I gotta admit, I sure am tempted by the S&W 351C. The flash-bang effect of .22 Mag in a short barrel is likely as effective as the bullets being fired. :)
     
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    Take a look at what you just said -- if the bullet is less effective than the flash-bang, it really can't be much of a weapon.
     
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  15. chicharrones

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    Makes me think of this joke video. :D

     
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  17. tipoc

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    What's an SME? Similar to an MRE, but Special?
     
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    Subject Matter Expert.....you know, pretty much every guy on every firearm forum.
     
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    Just watched a guy put down a 350+ lb hog with a single 40gr (subsonic) 22 lr. I know it's not the most expensive, macho to use but I would not hesitate to pull one out in a time of need. Not so much the size but where you put it that counts.
     
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    Because I'm not a boomer?
     
  21. tipoc

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    Meaning that you'd prefer a sharp stick?!?!
     
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    Great article. Read it through and have renewed respect for the trusty .22 LR in the hands of a willing and trained participant! Thanks.
     
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  23. tipoc

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    I'm not sure about "expensive, macho" but seems to me it's more like selecting the right tool for the job. Since I don't know the circumstances of the fella choosing a .22 to kill the hog I won't comment on that. But I doubt that most folk will choose a .22 handgun, or long gun, to hunt hogs.
     
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  24. ThomasT

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    If you are considering a 22 for SD you may want to pick up a copy of this book.

    https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-True-Story-Israeli-Counter-Terrorist/dp/0743291646

    I have no problems with using a 22 pistol. I have a couple of Ruger old Standard Model 22s with 9 shot mags and they are as reliable as any gun I have shot. And with the grip angle they are the most natural pointing guns I have ever shot.
     
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  25. d'zaster

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    smallest caliber i would carry is 380. now if I has a spiffy Beretta like Mr Bannockburns, I would likely change my mind!
     
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