.22 short and .25 ACP smaller pocket guns?

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chicharrones said:
Just guessing here, but . . .

For a defense gun, the trigger needs to be in a ready to go condition. Trying to unfold the trigger under stress and keeping it unfolded could be problematic.

It adds a weak point to something that will have a fair amount of stress applied to it. Especially a double action trigger that has to cock the hammer.

And, if the trigger is unfolded, it has no trigger guard which likely makes 21st century gun maker's lawyers go a bit crazy.
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I don't know much at all about folding triggers since I have never seen them on modern firearms, much less used them. As far as I know, they were only used in smaller guns that fingers with average thickness, trigger guards will only get in the way.
 
lincen said:
An earlier post mentioned the 25NAA round. This is a 32 caliber necked down to a 25acp. I had one of these handguns made by NAA and honestly it was one of the most painful handguns I've ever shot. More discomfort than the Polish P64 chambered in 9x18 Makarov. Finally sold it to a collector of NAA's along with 200 rounds of ammo. I tried it but didn't like it BUT if it were in a Kel Tek locked breach P32 size, it would have been fine.
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Haven't shot a Guardian, but I feel the same in regards to the .32 NAA, locked breech is best. Good thing is there are a lot of .380's out there that could be made into .32 NAA, but nobody cares to do that because .25/.32 NAA is as niche as niche gets.

BTW, you ever shoot your .32 Professional after modifying it?
 
lincen said:
I’ve posted this picture before of most of my 25acp pistols.
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Holey moley! That's really great. Even though I share the tendency myself, I'm often both mystified and delighted by the things people get interested in and accumulate. (I smoke pipes, and at one time had more than a hundred of them, so I mean no disparagement. And looking around the room, I count eight computers (not including tablets), and that doesn't include my wife's. So, yeah. :cool:)
 
I have always liked true pocket guns. I still like my Astra Cub in 22 short and my Beretta Jetfire 25acp (950BS). A hideout gun (Onion Field Insurance) may be a nice thing to have;)
 
I believe that Taurus also made the M380 sized revolver in .327 Federal Mag, and it was called the Taurus M327. Sadly discontinued, as I would love to have one now. CDNN was selling them for a song years ago... If I knew now, what I knew then.

Also, I'd love to have a .25NAA barrel for my Kel-tec P32. It would only require a barrel and ammo swap, and it would be like shooting a laser beam out of the little thing! Very little recoil, I'd imagine. I suppose someone with enough skill could drill out, reline, and rebore a .32 barrel for it, but that's not a cheap (or quick) endeavor for most folks. Plus, ammo is essentially non-existent; Cor-bon made it, but doesn't sell it anywhere but through NAA these days.

Maybe someone could convince Sandy over at NAA to do a run of extended/ported P32 barrels with hopes of selling a bunch of .25NAA ammo with it. Practice with "cheap" .32acp, and carry the .25NAA. I'd be interested.
 
If you can find one, get a Taurus View. It weighs 9oz or so and is the smallest and lightest
38 you can find. Surprisingly accurate and easy to carry a real featherweight.
 
How accurate one of these guns is is dependent on their conditions.
After my grandfather passed years ago, I inherited his three guns. One was the old .38 that he used to keep under the cash register in his store. I shot it with .38 Specials and was appalled at how poorly it shot. I came to learn that 1 - the gun was apparently a cop's duty gun from the early 1900s; and 2 - because of its age, the barrel was badly worn; and 3 - to add insult to injury, I got VERY lucky in that I found out the cylinder no longer locked up properly and it didn't blow up in my hand !
The second is a Colt 1903 in .32 ACP from ~1911. While it functions quite well, its barrel is also badly worn and isn't accurate beyond 10-15 yds.
The last is a Colt "Junior" in .25 ACP from ~1958. It was NIB until I got it. Despite its relative low powered rounds and only a 1.25" barrel, it was easily accurate out to 50 ft. And, being so small, it is easily concealable which could, in a pinch, allow you to get close enough to an unsuspecting perp so you can put one round right in their neck, cutting the spine.
 
chicharrones said:
I ride just to get the heart rate up, give the lungs an exercise, and not let my legs atrophy. :D My knees and ankles can't take running anymore, so hitting the bicycle is it. :)

Back in the '90s I'd put my Beretta Bobcat .22 LR in a fanny pack while riding the mountain bike I had back then. Nowadays, my preference is my Taurus TCP in .32 ACP in its pocket holster, but I wear somewhat baggy pants or shorts that make that possible. I'm not trying to be aero when I ride, that's for sure.

I figure anything that is Ruger LCP sized works just fine for cycling. Which actually is one reason a new version of a VeloDog isn't needed in the 21st century, IMO.

Although I could use a carry gun on a dog, I really carry because of people. Most dogs around me are not a stray pack, they are someone's pet. That was probably a lot different back in 1900.
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I didn't know Taurus made a TCP in 32ACP
 
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