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223 and a Dillon 650

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by gab909, Feb 9, 2013.

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  1. gab909

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    I have a Bolt gun (Savage) that I use for Squirrels, coyotes, bobcats, and Jackrabbits. I am loading it with Varget and some 55, 50, 69, and 70 grain bullets. I like the loads and the gun shoots them all just fine. It is a 1:10 twist, but the problem I have is that I just purchased an AR with a 1:8 barrel that I would like to load a lot of bullets for and am not to sure about the metering of Varget in a progressive. I would like to change over to a ball powder and see how it meters. Plus I don't want to use up my Varget just slinging lead. I would like a powder that will shoot some surplus 55 gr FMJ's and Sierra 69 gr BTHP's. I will load up some of my handloads with Varget to see how accurate the AR is and if it shoots well I would like to work up a consistent load with a ball powder. If it is just a lead slinger, then I will load it as such with the cheapest stuff I can get my hands on. Do you guys have a powder that you are having success with consistent metering on the Dillon 650 with those two bullet weights?
     
  2. frankmako

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    i don't reload any of my rifles cals on my dillons. i do rifle on two old single stage press.
     
  3. Henry45

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    I use 335 and WC844 both. Both are ball powders. I load on a 650. No problems. Ball powders meter and flow well. On the mil-powder, you must start low and work your load up. Every lot code is different. I use starting load 335 spec and worked my way up to my desired load. If you want published load specs, i would suggest just use 335. Both work well with my 650.
     
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    I have worked up a load of 23.5g H335 and 55g Midway Dogtown bullets that shoot well in both my AR w/DPMS 20" bull barrel and my Savage Edge bolt gun.

    Chrono'd the loads at a 5 round average of 2979 from the bolt gun and 2906 out of rhe AR.
     
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    Some of the smaller extruded powders give excellent drops in a dillon measure. IMR8208 and H Benchmark are two that I've used.
     
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    IMR 8208 (XBR) is my go to powder for my Hornady LnL AP Progressive in .223
     
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    Winchester 748 or Ramshot TAC and Xtermanator. Would be my top 3 picks.
     
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    Another vote for 8208 or Benchmark. Benchmark meters great and every Benchmark load I've loaded hits roughly same POI as my Varget loads, with bullets in the 50-60gr range. I absolutely loved Varget until I tried Benchmark. Dont quote me on this but I think I used 24.6gr of Benchmark under a 50gr V-Max, while a comparable Varget load Was 26.0gr. my load book is in the basement so i might be a little off. I'll be ordering a few kegs Benchmark ASAP. I haven't shot any 8208 loads yet but the grains are smaller than Varget but not as small as Benchmark. It meters pretty good.
     
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    H335 or Accurate A2230
     
  11. gab909

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    Thanks All, much appreciated information
     
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    Yep--OP asked for ball so I said TAC, but 8208 is my top choice.
     
  13. gab909

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    Like it matters, where the heck can you find any of it? lol, found some old pulldown from some 223. The notes were slower than 2400 (4227) faster than HiVel #2 (4198). Looks good, smells good, and is a ball powder. Gonna give it a shot with about 17.5 grains underneath a 55 gr FMJ out of my Savage Heavy barrel.
     
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    I load everything on my Dillon 550 but use my RCBS Uniflow powder measure for rifle loads. It is very consistent even with stick powders.
     
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    Any ball powder will meter consistently with Dillon's powder measure. It will crunch up most extruded powders, though I've read there's a 'short' extruded powder that it works fairly well with. I use AA2230 for plinking ammo. I bought http://www.quick-measure.com/ and have it set up on a Whidden toolhead for heavy grain bullets and use extruded powders (I 4895 and R15) in it exclusively. It works flawlessly and is a very innovative and simple design. Charges vary no more than +/- 0.1grain.
     
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    Varget measures perfectly in a Dillon powder measure.

    I have about 800 rounds sittin on my shelf right now.
    All were loaded on my 550 using a dillon pm.
     
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    CFE 223 is my powder of choice now for AR's. Meters very well on my Dillon.
     
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