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223 four deer ?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by jetsfan-24, Oct 10, 2010.

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  1. jetsfan-24

    jetsfan-24 Member

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    which would b a better four deer federal 55 grain barnes tsx or federal 60 grain nosler partition i know their a little small four deer but it,s four my 11 year old little girl and i,ll b backing her up with a 257 weatherby mag
     
  2. BHP FAN

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    I'd take the heavier bullet, but for only one deer....seriously, a buddy's wife uses a mini 14, with a five shot mag. works just fine.
     
  3. courtgreene

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    I peronally look forward to using a .223 FOR deer. I just got some winchester super-x 64grn cartridges FOR it. I have bigger rifles, but I want to actually try it so that I can weigh in on the vast expanse of threads on this topic. (Don't judge me unless you have tried it please.)
     
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    Generally, 50- and 55-grain bullets are for varmints, and expansion is more important than penetration. The heavier bullets, 60 grains to 70 grains, work better as deer loads.

    I figure I'd be picky about my shots, going either for the neck or for a cross-body heart/lung shot. No angling shots on a deer that's quartering away, for sure.
     
  6. HGUNHNTR

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    First off its "for" not "four". Four is the #4.


    Secondly, either of the two bullets should be OK. I have had excellent success witht he Winchester 64 Gr. Powerpoint. Federal also makes a similar bullet in Federal flavor.
     
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    Umm...don't point out somebody elses spelling problems while making one of your own.
     
  8. blackops

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    And you shouldn't critique any of those errors utilizing "Umm" in a sentence or forgetting the apostrophe in “elses“ (else's).:neener:

    IMO, a 223 is too light, but considering this is for an 11 year old girl, that's quite understandable. I would recommend utilizing the heaviest bullet and positioning her as close as possible for the shot.
     
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    That was a typo, not a spelling error.
     
  10. R.W.Dale

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    Either of those bullets are excellent choices. Just pick the one your rifle shoots best.
    The tsx will likely penetrate deeper and be more accurate and the partition will likely cause a bit more dramatic wound channel. IMO a 6 one way half dozen another situation.

    A great read featuring the 60g partition
    http://www.shootingillustrated.com/Ammo/Rifle/Bullethitsbone.html

    Generally speaking when folks make comments on bullets based purely on weight they're going by knowledge that may be decades out of date. A word of warning though, after you witness firsthand what premium .22 bullets will do to deer your weatherby might find itself very very lonely come next season.
     
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    I understand your thinking. But, if the 55 grain bullet is better than it was decades ago, wouldn't a heavier bullet be better also?
     
  12. R.W.Dale

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    Depends on what's being compared

    Solid copper to solid copper sure (if your bbl will shoot em)

    Solid copper to partition however is a much murkier comparison.

    Today's solid copper bullets are almost like shooting bullets that weigh 30 grains more than they actually do compared to older lead cored projectiles.

    My point is the bullet dark ages are long over. Today we have more bullets than ever to choose from and in many cases manufactures offer many different bullets running the full spectrum of terminal ballistic performance in the same weight.

    Saying x bullet is for y critters because it weighs k grains today isn't gonna cut it in a discussion about terminal bullet performance and doing so just shows how far behind the times you are.
     
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    Wolf, "охoтничий", hollow-point, "hunter" 50gr,

    Is this an "expanding" bullet? "Oхoтничий" translates as "hunter", as in great-white-hunter. Does anyone have experience with this rd in deer, and in hog? 50gr seems fast and light. Thanks.
     
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    Try the Winchester 64grn Power Point loads. Winchester developed them specificaly for deer hunting with the .223.
     
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    62gr Barnes TSX worked great this weekend for my son. 2" exit wound and visibly broken bones.
     
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    you will need a 50 clip!
     
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    Lots of deer have been killed with .22LR bullets too . . . but shot carefully in the ear. The .223? I don't like to track wounded deer for hours . . . but a .223 bullet will kill 'em. Not the best or most humane choice though.
     
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    Choose the heavier bullet. I'm not an advocant for using the .223 for whitetails. But it works with good bullet placement.
     
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    I like to use the Winchester Ranger 62gr for whitetail. I used them this past weekend with great success.
    106 yds neck/spine shot on a doe. DRT.
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    125 yds on a small buck with spine shot. DRT
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  21. griff383

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    I think shot placement is key with a .223. If you know the anatomy of a deer then you should be able to make an itelligent decision and make the harvest quick and painless.
     
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    This is very true but you can leave out this "with a .223." and it would STILL be true.
     
  23. d2wing

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    2 years ago I shot a 14 pt 200+ lb buck with a 55 gr psf. One shot to the lungs. A game warden told me he uses a .223 to kill big game for wildlife reseach. It is plenty if you are a careful shot and don't take long shots. Not only for bullet placement but bullet performance as well. It is not legal in all states. I am considering a 6.8 SPC upper for more power.
     
  24. Speed Trap

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    Shoot the TSX. A lot of deer are killed in Texas with a .223 and the TSX. And, this is from somebody who knows...
     
  25. W.E.G.

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    Deer?

    I say nuke them from orbit... just to be sure.
     
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