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Griffin Armament Bushwhacker 46.
223 Muzzle Brake question.
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Griffin Armament Bushwhacker 46.
redcon1
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I have the Griffin Armament Rev45 and have my Glock 29, 20, 21 and 19x all set up with their CamLok QD muzzle attachment so I can just quickly go between platforms with the suppressor. Hopefully next week I can try it out on the 9mm platform. I just got it set up last week. Their CS is outstanding and I feel like their products are too.
gotboostvr
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I'm picking up a couple CamLok muzzle devices for my pistols.
To keep it more closely to the OP's topic though, Griffin Armament makes some very good looking muzzle devices. They're designed to work with their suppressors, but they seem like very nice brakes.
redcon1
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I feel like anybody named Mr. Wick needs to consider suppressor attachment as he looks at various muzzle breaks. Anyways, cheers!
LocoGringo
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Anyone with the username Mr. Wick shouldn't be complaining about uncomfortable recoil...especially from a .223.
redcon1
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Yeah, probably. You have to teach yourself to love the feeling of that rifle slamming into your shoulder. You have to want it, to crave it. Before I squeeze that trigger all I can think about is "oh thank God, more recoil".
Come by some time you can run a box or two thru my .375 or .458
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Sjc titan extreme. $$$.
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Always has to be the ONE dick.
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That is what I am looking for. Faster follow up shots. Thank you.
Zerodefect
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Best brakes have compensator ports as well.
Report to a 3gun thread. They have this figured out.
Note the FHS Allen screws on top. Those are removable to add or remove comp ports:
https://stores.sjcguns.com/amp/sjc-titan-extremes-17-223-7mm-308-33
Report to a 3gun thread. They have this figured out.
Note the FHS Allen screws on top. Those are removable to add or remove comp ports:
https://stores.sjcguns.com/amp/sjc-titan-extremes-17-223-7mm-308-33
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Txhillbilly
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Nope, I shoot 6 different 223's - 2 bolt action rifles, 3 AR's- two 18" barrels / SPR profile & HBAR profile, one 20" Bull barrel, and a Kel-Tec PLR-16 pistol. None have or need a muzzle brake to stay on target for follow up shots.
I do have two rifles with muzzle brake's, both are light weight hunting rifles, a 30-06 and a 300WM. They have some decent recoil!
lightman
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I just got a Remington 700 back from having it rebarreled. I gave serious thought to having the muzzle threaded but finally decided not to. The main reason for that thought was that it recoils just enough that I can't see the hits in the scope. Think Prairie Dogs!
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My “cheap option” for my own 223/5.56’s is the PRI Quiet Control brake. It offers right hand shooter compensation ports, and substantial recoil reduction at a very reasonable price. My preferred low cost option is Kaw Valley Linear Compensator. A little less recoil reduction than a conventional brake/compensator, but still considerably less recoil, and most notably, considerably less blast to the shooter and firing line.
My “doing it right” options are the APA Micro Bastard for small dia barrels, or Little Bastard or Area419 Hellfire or Hellfire 2P for heavier barrels. More expensive, but recoil mitigation on these is exceptional.
My “doing it right” options are the APA Micro Bastard for small dia barrels, or Little Bastard or Area419 Hellfire or Hellfire 2P for heavier barrels. More expensive, but recoil mitigation on these is exceptional.
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I only have 1 device on any of my rifles, an a2 bird cage on my AR. I can usually keep 223 bolt gun on target, m11 savage 22" barrel enough to see hits out yo 300 meters. My savage is likely heavier than your cz though.
From the brakes in your pic I'd likely get the armspec Ritter, or a different linear compensator that directs gasses down range rather than to ghe sides. I dint know though about brakes or compensators but thats the route I'd take.
From the brakes in your pic I'd likely get the armspec Ritter, or a different linear compensator that directs gasses down range rather than to ghe sides. I dint know though about brakes or compensators but thats the route I'd take.
doubleh
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I used to own a very light bolt action rifle in 223 and it's recoil was no worse than my AR's. I have a G2 Contender with a 23" barrel and I believe it has less recoil than my AR. None of them sre uncomfortable to shoot at all.
illinoisburt
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Been my general observation new shooters have more issues perceiving noise rather actual recoil. Recommend you get good ear protection first and foremost. There are plenty of minimal AR style brakes which do a good job reducing muzzle rise without too much additional blast -- any slant style work well. Also make sure the gun fit the shooter. Too long or short length of pull makes for an unenjoyable shooting session. The gun needs to fit well into pocket of shoulder and have firm hold so you rock with recoil rather than getting hit by a moving object.
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tactikel
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Perceived recoil is more than “foot pounds” be sure to wear eye, hearing protection. Shooting vest and gloves can make a huge difference. Practice shooting to mitigate flinch.
A good recoil pad and stock fit can really help.
A good recoil pad and stock fit can really help.
BigBL87
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If muzzle jump is your issue and not recoil, you'd likely be better served with a compensator. Plenty of devices function as both, but I'd definitely make sure whatever you get says it works as a compensator.
Lo-Profile
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Birdcage and call it a day.
Muzzle brake's that aren't QD threaded for a suppressor are like nipples on a boar.
Muzzle brake's that aren't QD threaded for a suppressor are like nipples on a boar.
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And yet, boars have nipples…
While they are quieter, compensators mitigate muzzle rise better than suppressors. And usually at a shorter length, though some of the gaming comps rival them in ungainly lengths.
While a comp on a CZ may be a bit odd, an A2 birdcage would look ridiculous.
I find this series to be very informative, even if a bit dated. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar-15-muzzle-brake-shootout-3/
I have several VG6 compensators because they work well, are attractive, and didn’t cost $190. There are others that work better, but there always is…
They can usually be found on sale at RightToBear.com.
Primary Weapons Systems is worth looking at. Either the FSC or the PRC type compensator will work for you.
One note, do not get any brake or comp that directs gas upwards, this will make bench shooting worse, as it drives the muzzle downwards giving you a "bounce" sort of effect and you'll never see your impacts. Those comps are for anything but bench shooting.
https://www.primaryweapons.com/
One note, do not get any brake or comp that directs gas upwards, this will make bench shooting worse, as it drives the muzzle downwards giving you a "bounce" sort of effect and you'll never see your impacts. Those comps are for anything but bench shooting.
https://www.primaryweapons.com/
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Compensators are explicitly made for counter acting upward muzzle movement. A compensator without upward venting is a muzzle brake.
Many of the quality compensators have top surface tuning holes to adjust the amount of gas upwards to keep the muzzle flat. There are some very efficient comps that can actually move the muzzle downward, with unrestricted movement, these are the ones with the necessary tuning holes.
How much force would have to be applied forward of the bipod, or rest, to make enough leverage to raise the rear of the rifle with the shooter on it, or flex the barrel so hard it bounces from the front?
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