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.223 Powder

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Hondo 60, May 17, 2010.

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  1. Hondo 60
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    As long as we're on the 223 kick.

    What's your favorite powder for reloading .223, why, and for what type of rifle?


    I reload for an AR-15 & use Reloder 15 just because that's what the fun store had on hand.
    I'll probably switch to a Hodgdon brand when this is gone because Alliant's reloading data leaves a lot to be desired.
    I use Hodgdon's Titegroup for my pistol reloading & like the way they have the reloading section laid out.
     
  2. NCsmitty

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    I'm currently using H4895 in my 223 14" T. Contender with CCI 400 primer and 52gr Nosler custom competition bullet.



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  3. tkcomer

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    I use Ramshot's Tac in the two AR-15s I have. I used to use Win 748, but Tac was on sale so I tried it. Couldn't tell a difference. I use lighter bullets in the 1x12 gun and heavier in the 1x9.
     
  4. Slamfire

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    I like the short cut stick powders.

    I used kegs of AA2520, which is a ball powder, but the stuff leaves so much residue, and I have experienced "settling" issues at 600 yards with the stuff, I don't use it except at 100 yard reduced matches anymore.

    Saturday I shot XTC with a .223 using AA4064 with 69's. AA4064 is a short cut stick powder. It shoots bug eyed groups groups, but is too slow in a Wilson match barrel. However, my .223 Krieger barrel is so tight that the velocities kick right up. I used that out to 300 yards.

    At 600 yards I used N140. This is a short cut powder and shoots exceptionally well.

    I have buds who use Varget. That is a great powder.

    I prefer stick powders. Stick powders are more predictable, have a wider sweet spot than ball. Ball powders throw well but you can't prove on target, with a hand held rifle, that it shoots any better.
     
  5. Hondo 60
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    My reason for asking is that I'm trying to learn.
    This is my first attempt at reloading anything other than handguns -
    9mm, .38 spl & .357 mag

    By the way my ar is 1 in 9 & I bought some 60 gr soft point blems from MidwayUSA.
     
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    My bolt target rifle loves H322 and my Saiga .223 uses H335. Have never been able to cook up 4198 or Varget recipes that are consistently accurate.
     
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    I like to match powder burn rate too bullet weight. For light bullets (45gr & down) I like 10x, 3031, and H335. With midweight bullets I like 4895, 748, and N135. Heavy bullets (over 60gr) I like Varget and RL15. If I had to pick one to do it all, I'd go with Winchester 748. In .223 I shoot a 20” and a 16” AR, a 22” Ruger bolt, and 12” T/C Contender.
     
  8. cheygriz

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    H335 was specifically engineered by Winchester for the 5.56X45 MM, ball, M193 ammo. It's the best I've found. AAC#2230 is also superb for M193 and and M855 bullets
     
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    I would not be that dismissive of RX15. There are other data sources than Alliant such as Lyman 49th Ed.
     
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    Their web site may not be great but the powders are. RL-15 and Varget are probably the 2 most common powders for Highpower shooters that are using 223s. For 69gr and above anyway ... lighter bullets I'd try 335 and 748.
    /Bryan
     
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    Yeah I like Varget and RL-15
     
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    I prefer a short cut or ball powder for .223.

    Had good luck with Varget and R15, but for smaller bullets like 40gr and 50gr, it is hard to get enough powder in there to reach factory velocities.

    I use Benchmark and AA2230 mostly. I would also use W748, IMR 8208 XBR, etc.
     
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    I get great groups using Varget with the larger 77gr matchkings, and 80 gr. Amax in my 1:8 twist NM ar.

    I also got pretty good results with Varget using 55gr. dogtown sp bullets in my 1:9 varmint ar.

    I just picked up some h335 to try with them next. I'm thinking it should be even better than Varget with the lighter bullets. When I get some loaded up I will post some results.
     
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    cheygriz wrote "H335 was specifically engineered by Winchester for the 5.56X45 MM, ball, M193 ammo. It's the best I've found. AAC#2230 is also superb for M193 and and M855 bullets"

    Isn't H335 a Hodgdon powder?

    I like several different powders for the 223. For light bullets I have had good luck with Reloader 10X and Hodgdon BL-C(2). For heavier bullets I like both Varget and H4895.
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    Been using AA2230 for my 55 grain FMJ bullets
    Varget for my 68 grain HPBT bullets
     
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    I am using BL-C(2) beneath a 69gr or 75gr for my 1:9 Sig.
     
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    Reloder 10X and Reloader 15 work well in my short barreled(16") .223. 10X works well up to 55 grs bullets, RL 15 55grs and up.

    Jimmy K
     
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    IMR 4198 Why, because i have 1/2 a case of the stuff. M16A1 Carbine 14"bbl. Mini-14. T/
    C Contender. AR180. Win M70. Savage O/U . IMR4198 may not work the action of some AR rifles with lite (40to55gr) bullets, even with maximum loadings. Has to do with the size of the gas port drilled in the barrel and its location.
     
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    Western Powder

    X-Terminator for accuracy, and clean burning ~! ;) :D
     
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    AA2230 in AR 16" with 55grn winchesters.BL C2 didnt work for me.
     
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    varget (if i can find it) is my favorite hands down.
     
  22. Ky Larry

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    AA-2460 because it shoots every .224 bullet I've tried from 40-60gr. I have an old Ruger two tone Model-77V, 1-12" twist, Nikon Monarch 5.5-16.5X44 AO scope. Also likes AA-2230 and IMR-4064 in heavier bullets. Tried H335 but it just didn't give quiet as good accuracy. YMMV.
     
  23. the recoil junky

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    I've been gone awhile, but this sound like a good place to "restart".

    I used to use H335 and IMR4198, but about a while back a shooting friend told me about Benchmark, so I picked up a pound and tried it in my 788. Now I use it exclusively in both my 788's in .223, my 788 in .222 and my 700SPS Varmint in .223. I think you can see the trend here. :D

    RJ
     
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    I bought a lot of WC844 recently and I've been using that with excellent results. The price was good, I think $94 for 8 pound jugs and free shipping and hazmat with every case of 4 jugs so I stocked up.:rolleyes: It's still available from Hi Tech Ammo. It's the same as H335 since it's pulldown powder from military loads.

    I shoot in an M16 so I'm not necessarily looking for the greatest accuracy although what I have measured is as good as USGI ball ammo, about 1.5 to 2 inches at 100 yards, good enough for my needs.
     
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    For shooting thousands of rodents, I like Blue Dot, but it is advanced reloading to check that it metered correctly.
    The powder is peaky, and should be loaded at ~ 35,000 psi. It burns so clean, after 1,000 rounds, a cleaning patch comes out looking like one round was fired.

    For high velocity, H335. SAAMI registered max average pressure is 55,000 psi, but the case head is good for 75,000 psi, and H335 has the density for the extra powder needed for me to take advantage of the potential.

    For approaching 5,000 fps bragging rights, H110 and light bullets are the best I have found.
     
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