.22lr Accuracy at 100 Yards

[sarduy]

Just wondering from your guys experiance, if I zero my 10/22 for 25yards how low will it be hitting at 50yards and 100yards?

zero at 25 yards "dead-on"


it will hit about .25/.50 of an inch high at 50 yards

 

[juk]

My CZ 452 will consistently lob 10 rounds into a sub 2" circle at 100 if the winds cooperate. That same group is about 6" below my POA though. All of that out of cheapy federal champion. One of these days I will get some wolf match and take my time.

 

[Geno]

I'm with CB900F. I was able to make one-shot kills (head or neck) on woodchucks at 175 yards with my former Ruger 10/22HB. The single best group I ever fired with it was 1 & 7/8th inch at 225 yards off the bench. It shocked my Father, brother and cousins who all contended that no .22LR could fire that accurately.

In those days, 1 or 2 bricks of ammo was the norm when firing my Kimber .22LR rifle, two Ruger 10/22HBs, Ruger 77/22, a Contender pistol in .22LR MATCH, and a Marlin Model 25. Oh yeah, and a Mark II Slabside. Sheesh...was that enough?! I admit, the .22LR is my favorite.

I will say that if you intend to fire your .22LRs at distance, forget paper. Buy some nice, swinging, steel targets. I used life-sized woodchucks in armor plate, and set them at 175 to 225 yards. Pull the trigger and wait for the "ping!" If you can hit it 10 for 10, you're ready to varmint hunt. If you're concerned about grouping, place a few red stickers on the steel and blast them off.

JMHO

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Yeah, 1 MOA at 50 can easily turn into 2.5-3 MOA at 100, in changing swirling winds. Also got to contend with that severe drop.

 

[natman]

20 years ago, when my eyes were sharper, I would shoot 1" 100 yard groups with a 22 BSA Martini.

With iron sights. (Match peep and ring front)

Wish I still could.

 

[DBR]

If you use a centerfire scope at rimfire ranges you can have some significant parallax errors. Most rimfire scopes are parallax corrected at 50yds. Most centerfire scopes are corrected a 150yds.

To test for a problem set the rifle on something steady and sight on a target at 30-50yds, without moving the rifle move your head up and down and side to side while viewing the target. Parallax shows up as the crosshairs moving on the target.

Keeping your eye as well centered as possible behind the scope also minimizes the error.

An adjustable objective scope is the best solution to the problem.

 

[22-rimfire]

zero at 25 yards "dead-on"

it will hit about .25/.50 of an inch high at 50 yards

That is about right. I now sight my better scoped rifles in a 50 yds. But in the past, I was more concerned about "minute of squirrel precision" and always sighted in at 25 yds. For general shooting, sighting in at 25 yds works just fine and it is easier to achieve good groups with cheaper ammo.

Most 22 rifles and shooters struggle to do much better than 1 MOA with a 22 rifle. That is approximately 0.5" groups at 50 yds. The groups open up at 100 yds quite a bit and most can't do 1" groups at 100 yds except with the best ammo.

The question may have been posed in 2004. But it is just as pertinent today as then.

 

[RP88]

I can print 1.5" groups at 50 yards with my Savage MKII with bulk ammo, and I'm what you would call a less-than-stellar/average marksman.

 

[Skillet]

i must have a GOOD melon!

that is where we sight our 22 rifles in with.
i swear, my .22 mossberg 702 plinkster, although it's a mossberg, can hit things with astounding accuracy at 100 yards. so does our bolt action savage 22 with accu trigger. if you get the right scope, and are really good with being accurate, you can hit things accuratly at 100 yards with a .22
and, i use federal value ammo pack 36 gr copper plated hollow point with a 5.6" drop at 100 yards.
just set your scope accordingly.

 

[TomADC]

Not a 22LR but a 17 HMR at 100yds 25 rounds, rifle is a Savage 93R17 FV I have a Savage MK II FV 22 LR that I'm hoping will do the same when its dialed in.

 

[Bill B.]

I was able to make one-shot kills (head or neck) on woodchucks at 175 yards with my former Ruger 10/22HB. The single best group I ever fired with it was 1 & 7/8th inch at 225 yards off the bench. It shocked my Father, brother and cousins who all contended that no .22LR could fire that accurately.

That's some amazing shooting with a .22 LR! What type of scope rings & scope do use on that 10/22?

 

[Geno]

I mounted the base with red LockTite and epoxied it to the receiver. I used Redfield steel rings, and a 4X target scope with AO and target turrets. You don't need massive magnification...you just need consistent placement of the crosshairs. For consistent placement, I used a black, steel target, and affixed 2" hunter orange/red dots. The crosshairs covered about 1 & 7/8" at 225 yards. In effect, I was able to see nothing more of the target dots than 4 miniscule points of orange/red on the black background at the 10:30, 2:30, 4:30 and 8:30 positions in the scope. I was also shot from the picnic table with a bi-pod and sandbag. Get a system in place, and replicate your process. This particular 10/22HB (the blued one) had such a tight chamber that I had to spray it clean and run a clean cloth through it every 10 or so rounds or it would not chamber. I was never able to get such accuracy from the 77/22...not ever.

 

[Bill B.]

crosshairs covered about 1 & 7/8" at 225 yards. In effect, I was able to see nothing more of the target dots than 4 miniscule points of orange/red on the black background at the 10:30, 2:30, 4:30 and 8:30 positions in the scope.

That's exactly the reason I asked because with .22 bullet drop at 225 yards most scopes run out of adj. to be able hold directly on the target? A 40 gr. .22 rimfire bullet with a muzzle velocity of 1,255 fps has an advertised drop of about 32 inches at 200 yards.

 

[easyrider604]

What kind of accuracy can one expect from a very good .22lr rifle at 100 yards?

Not sure if my Savage MKIIF/Accutrigger can be considered a very good rifle but on a calm day, I can shoot 1" 5-shot groups at 100 meters using bulkpack whitebox Winchester Dynapoints (40 grain plated HP bullets), if I do my part.

Once in a while, I can see the POI more than an inch from POA, but I may have pulled that shot, or just inconsistent bulk ammo.

I can see that with more than half my shots, POI is, or almost POA.
Using a 3-9X x 32 AO Bushnell Sportview, I can usually see the POI on the bullseye. I zero the scope, set to max magnification (9) and the AO at 100meters. Groups at 50 meters are about 4 inches high.

Maybe I got lucky with this MKIIF. Bought it "used" three weeks ago for Canadian$200, including scope. It shoots just a tiny bit better than my CZ452 Style and Varmint, meaning I get more 1" groups with the MKIIF.

 

[Geno]

BB:

Nope, I had plenty of adjustment. For hunting, though, I set the zero at 175 yards, then paced off 175 yards to the woodchucks' holes.

Edit to add:

Hopefully on Sunday I will have the time and energy to get my K82G with 36X to the range. I have had the chance to fire it at 30 yards with the target sights, and it placed all shots into a single hole. Now it's time to test the 100 yards range with some serious magnification.

Geno

 

[Bill B.]

Hopefully on Sunday I will have the time and energy to get my K82G with 36X to the range.

The latest and greatest Leupold Target Competition Series 35x45mm Riflescope has a 38-MOA of both windage and elevation adjustment. If the scope is adj. to it's mid point and centered in it rings this only give's you 19 MOA adj. unless you do one of 2 things: Use offset rings or shim your scope mounts. A .22 LR with it's rainbow trajectory drops more at 200 yards than a 36x scope can be adj. unless you do one of the two.

 

[Geno]

BB:

I won't be trying this at 200 yards anytime soon. I'd have to go north for that. The range here is only 100 yards. I bought this scope last year for testing 100 yards loads in my centerfires, and just thought I'd try it for a better magnification. The scope I referred to on the Ruger 10/22HB was a 4X, target turrets and AO. I understand what you're saying. Many scopes run out of adjustment. That little 4X didn't. I only wish I still had it.

Geno

 

[rangerruck]

should be able to find one, that likes a certain ammo, and get it to shoot moa at 100 yds. As a matter of fact, I will say it like this; I have never not had one, that as long as I tried enough ammo, could not shoot moa at 100 yds...
except a stock ruger 10.22, but anything else can do it, I am sure of it.
the ammo search is the thing.

 

[HaveBlue83]

just saw this, figured i'd keep it going....

5-shot 3/4" group @ 100yds (i have it taped to the wall, i can grab a pict of it.

Scope: Tasco 3-9x
Rifle: Remington 511-X Scoremaster
Ammo: Federal 711B [subsonic ammo] (this is the KEY to the groups)

This was on a bipod with a rear sandbag. I used to do 1-1/2" groups all day. i managed to do this and was amazed. I also shot out a shotgun primer straight-through at 75yds.

 

[Soupy44]

Talking with the folks I hold in high regard, smallbore guns at 100 yards can only to expected to group one minute of angle with any regularity. Anything smaller than that has a factor of luck in it. Our biggest problem is the lack of the ability to load our own ammo.

I have had a number of 1in 100 shot groups at 100 yards. A couple of times, I've had 5-7 shot groups that would fit under a dime, but I know there was a hint of luck in there.

 

[Afy]

Seems to be that ammunition matters

My CZ 452 tends to shoot under 1 MOA at 100 with premium ammo like Midas M.

 

[HaveBlue83]

i agree as well. everything just worked that group. true, if we could reload .22, just imagine!

i find doing groups on grid paper at 100yds with a bolt .22 the coolest thing. I just zone out and can go all day.

 

[Texas Gun Person]

My friend can take my TOZ-78 and hit a 6x6 steel bullet trap at 300 yards. Shot after shot.

He's better than I am with my own gun.



However, my little stock TOZ-78 can out shoot a 10/22 that has a lot more money put into it.

 

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