22lr pump action

[Clark]

I have:
Win 61, a few of them
Rem 572 Fieldmaster, a few of them
Colt Lightning
Win 06
Win 62a
Rem 12
Rem 12a
Rem 121

Pumps will cycle CCI CB short that sound like a BB gun.
I have used the rem 572 a great deal and love it, but the Win 61 is a better at cycling shorts when shooting straight up.
The Rem 572 are reasonable in price.
The Win 61 prices are painful.

 

[Armored farmer]

What can a wmr do that those cartridges can not do? Th

Drop in a Ruger single six.

 

[andym79]

$10 a box isn't cheap but here in Aus its $32 for a box of 22wmr vs $5 for 22lr. Like I said I can actually reload by bee for about $14 so 115 218 bees vs 50 wmr not a hard choice. If wmr cost $15 a box I would go for it.

A remington 12 has come up about 10 miles away for about $320 usd anyone know how well those are made its from 1920

 

[tark]

A remington 12 has come up about 10 miles away for about $320 usd anyone know how well those are made its from 1920

The 12 is the earlier version of the 121 and they are very will made. It is a Pederson design and the basic action was made in three sizes. The 12, in .22, the 25 in 25-20 and 32-20, and the model 14 in 25, 30, 32, and 35 Remington. I have a 121 which is really a model 12 with minor cosmetic modifications. It looked like it had been dragged behind a truck on a gravel road when I first bought it, obviously having god knows how many rounds run through it. It functions flawlessly. I cleaned it up, and now it looks brand new.

I don't know pricing on firearms in Australia, but assuming the gun is in good shape, and the price is good, you need not worry about the quality of manufacture.

 

[Clark]

Here are some detail pics of a 1928 Rem 12 and a 1941 Rem121
I also have a 1925 Rem 12a, but the only difference is the 12a barrel is 2" shorter and round instead of octagonal.

 

[Gordon]

Pumps I still own
1890 Winchester .22 WRF , which I have found is a perfect small game for eatin round, it is teamed with my Police Positive Target .22 WRF .
1906 Winchester take down .22 Short Gallery gun, was in fair shape when I got it from the gallery which kept it on side as the "sighted in one" , I have had it 35 years and did not take care of it well for 10 of those years out in a barn and it got some surface rust it is in constant ready state and gets shot a lot, still works 100% !
Winchester model 62 .22 LR , a cherry 1940 made one I shot some to bring a smile on my face but is a safe queen
Winchester 61 Hammerless .22 Mag with scope grooves (late 61) , I shot a couple hundred rounds in the 20 years I had it, it has a little Burris mini 4x scope on it and is very accurate, teamed with my .22 mag single action guns but Lives mostly in a case in a safe as it is worth $1500
Remington 121, a very smooth and solid gun similar all steel like the Winnies but different . It completes my Rem pump collection of 121, 25 , 14 1/2 , and 141 .
I gave away my Remington 572 Field master to one son and my Winchester .22 mag 275 to a different son. They worked fine but too hard to field strip for me (they never would) and allthough the Aluminum works well for their uses, I dont cotton to it.

 

[theotherwaldo]

I picked up a Remington 12C to replace a 12A that was stolen from me long ago. I love that little rifle, even though it was ugly as a poorly planned sin when I found it. I've got it to where it operates well and the stock won't put splinters in your cheeks. Not terribly accurate, but great fun.

I'm still looking for an original peep sight for it.

 

[BrocLuno]

I have a Remmie Model 12 with octagonal barrel. Highly recommended. Accurate and built like a swiss army tank

 

[andym79]

Thanks for all the replies so far, please keep them coming. I started this thread to ask for advice on a 22lr pump action.

I apologize for letting it become a discussion about the 22wmr which I think fills a void very well but just cosys way too much to run the last 3 years.

I am tempted by the Rem 12 but then I am keen on a Win 61.

 

[Clark]

If you collecting antiques, that is different. But if you want to just buy something and start killing small game, I think the Rem 572 you can find used for $250 at gunbroker buy now, and probably at your local gun stores.
Remington may want $750 for them new, that means they don't make many and are phasing them out. They were $56 in 1963.
2017 -1963 = 54 years
3% compounded for 54 years is a factor of 4.93
4.93 x $56 = $276 is the price I would predict.

I paid $180 for a 1963 rem in 2013, great condition, great deal
I paid $319 for a 1964 rem in 2013, terrible condition, terrible deal

Wait a minute. You are in AU.
They want a fortune for pump 22s down under
https://www.usedguns.com.au/Guns/used_pump_semi_auto_guns

 

[Gordon]

There is a very good 1906 Win for $550 there. I would be all over those Browning Trombones

 

[andym79]

Hi do you guys know much about the Savage model 29? Are they well made do they have problems? Can you get parts. One has come up and its tempting.

 

[RainDodger]

Wow, finding a Remington 572 for $250.... I bought one brand new in 1972 for $65... at a combination gas station and gun store. Sorry to comment out of the thread... had to say that.

 

[Clark]

Rain Dodger,
Nixon deregulated Gold in 1971.
Before that it was $35/ounce.
It is $1200/ ounce now.
Once Gold prices stabilized after that, I see Gold, Guns, Guitars, and Oil have appreciated at 3% compounded annually.
I typically make 22% compounded on financial investments annually. The wife is not amused with my guns earning 3%. Guns will be heavy and hard to haul away when I die.

 

[andym79]

Bought myself a trombone and a 06 I am going to see which one I prefer.

 

[Charliefrank]

I had a Remington 572 years ago. Beautiful wood and reliable. Wasn't all that accurate, so I lost interest and traded it for a sks back in the early 90's.

 

[TeaCoffee.Guy]

I have got a Henry pump .22 but I haven't taken it out shooting yet ( bad weather). I bought it because I liked the look of it on the broshure.
I had to order it first and it took a week to get delivered.
When I finally got to see it for the first time I fell in love it immediately! Every part of it shows QUALITY!
It is a fantastic looking gun. The stock is beautiful walnut and the bluing job is perfect.
I've cranked the action several times and it is working flawlessly everytime. ( I am careful not to dry fire it - I lower the hammer down slowly)
I can't keep my hands off of it. I am almost tempted to fire it in the house - it is by far the best looking .22 I have ever seen!

 

[PCFlorida]

I have a Sears Ranger (Savage Model 25) .22 pump. It was my grandfathers, he bought it in 1925. Great little .22, I shoot it to this day. Great little gun, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one again. Almost 100 years old and still on the original parts.

 

[cougarman]

I have a Remington 572 I bought after High School 40 years ago and still love it.

 

[entropy]

I grew up shooting a 572, but I like the 121's better.

 

[doubleh]

I'm prejudiced for the Remington Mod. 12 as I cut my shooting teeth on my dad's as a little kid. I still have it and it's just as accurate as ever. I managed to find one in a hock shop many years ago at a fairly decent price as it looked as it it had been hauled around in the floorboard of an old farm truck for years. I bought it and brought it back to life. I have only seen a couple since them for serious money and in seriously bad shape and they stayed right where they were.

I searched for years for a Winchester Mod. 62. I found very few and they were beat to heck and gone and very expensive so they stayed right where they were. A couple of years ago I walked into the LGS to visit with the owner as we are long time friends and there sat a Rossi Mod. 62, the Winchester clone. It looked new. After a bit he said I'll make you a good deal on that little rifle and he did but it wasn't a good deal, it was excellent one. I like it but not as well as the Model 12s I own.

 

[Picher]

Had a Remington 572 and it pointed/shot quite well, but the mechanism makes a tinny sound when dry-fired.

I never had a rifle to point aerial targets as well as the 572, though I didn't do it often, since we needed a "people-free" zone a couple of miles long and wide. Haven't been able to shoot aerial's since...and that was about 65 years ago.

 

[entropy]

Remington's receiver shape has always lent itself to aerial shooting for me; That's why I shoot 870's and 1100's well, the stock and receiver design works well for me. I have shot the 572 at aerial targets-dragonflies. Got pretty good at it. I nailed a hummingbird once when I saw the movement and shot thinking it was a dragonfly. (yes, yes, I know, identify your target- I was 11 or so.)

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

Well, since you asked, my all time favorite is my Dad's little Winchester Model '06. His dad bought it for him in the 1930s in Abercrombie and Fitch in New York City. Since it was my Dad's, it is one of my most prized possessions.






Here is a photo of my Dad shooting it in Maine in 1931. Dig the knickers.





The truth of this story is my Dad told his dad he wanted a 22 rifle. Pop didn't know anything about guns, but he bought the little gallery rifle in Abercrombie and Fitch, in their store on Madison Avenue. But Dad really wanted a target rifle, not a little gallery gun like this. I don't think he ever had the heart to tell Pop it wasn't what he wanted.

A lot of these little gallery guns were shot out because they had been shot so much in shooting galleries. Dad's is still as accurate as the day it left the factory.




Here's a really nice Winchester Model 61 from 1946. I used it in steel plate matches for a while.






Winchester Model 1890, 22 Short.






Winchester Model 1890, 22 Long.






Still looking for a Model 1890 chambered for 22 Long Rifle.

 

[Picher]

Love those old pump .22s. My cousin had one that I shot once. It was really accurate and felt so good. He passed away and I don't know what happened to it. Of course, we all have shot them at shooting galleries that couldn't put two shots in the same hole at 10 feet. As a kid, I wasted only a bit of money until I realized that. They may have been smooth-bore.

Today, I need scopes on my rifles, so wouldn't want one, but still love to fondle them at gun shows.