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.22LR Shortage..? This might give you hope.?.!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by tjs45d, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. tjs45d

    tjs45d New Member

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    Here is a really good video on the production of .22 Rimfire ammo..

    This details the manufacturing process and is very informative. (Source: Shooting USA.. )

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pvK9QlQtrKI

    (Video is 7:00 min..)

    Let's see : 4,000,000 rounds per day (One company, CCI)

    ( Math Based on 5 days per week production, multiplied by 12 months)

    Total Rounds produced this year : 960,000,000

    If there are 100,000,000 .22LR rifle owners in the country, that gives an average of 9.6 rounds per owner....

    Just thought I'd pass this along as I hadn't seen this yet, and thought it needed to be passed along... :)
     
  2. SaxonPig

    SaxonPig Senior Member

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    Right now bricks of 22 ammo are selling for $75-$100+ on Gunbroker.

    I have absolutely NO hope prices will go down soon, nor do I believe they will ever go back to where they were since we have demonstrated that we will pay way more than they thought. Why should they reduce it to $22 again when folks are paying $100+? In maybe a year or so I see the retail dropping to $30 and staying there. And the people paying so much now will think it a bargain.
     
  3. buckeye8

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    I disagree with Saxon. The .22 shortage was mostly a byproduct of fears that had nothing to do with the .22LR cartridge. Everyone just scooped up the .22 along with everything else they were buying.

    Most folks have what they want, and some of them have more than they need. I think .22 prices and availability will be fairly normal again sometime this summer. Wouldn't be surprised if it was even early in the summer.

    The .22LR world will come back to reality long before the AR-15/AR Mags/.223 world does.
     
  4. Ignition Override

    Ignition Override Senior Member

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    Many people already stored 1,500-2,000 (+) rds. of .22 LR and aren't even considering paying "tourist prices" for .22.

    We/they knew that there would be no forewarning of a massacre and the resultant panic.
    A friend of mine has stored about 30,000 rds. of Centerfire ammo (imagine his rimfire), and expects no future govt. notices that ammo imports
    'could' one day be banned, or taxes increased etc.
     
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  5. BigBore44

    BigBore44 Senior Member

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    I bought 375 rds of CCI 22lr at Academy 2 days ago for $22. There were 12 boxes on the shelf. Gonna go back and get some more soon. They also had several hundred rounds of 223, 308, and 45.
     
  6. coloradokevin

    coloradokevin Senior Member

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    I'm just happy to say that .22lr ammunition is the ONE cartridge I feel like I have in a decent supply around here. It's kind of ironic that it happened that way at all, since .22lr was the last cartridge I thought I'd have any trouble getting!
     
  7. Snowdog

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    Prices fluctuate. I remember prices of .22LR hit the roof when Obama first took office. I knew it would settle and when it did, I replenished my supplies and purchased a couple cases extra to auction for the next panic (because there's always the next panic).

    Sure enough, the highly publicized shooting sparked the latest panic and I sold one of my cases of CCI for nearly $600. Before any ballyhoos, there was NO reserve and the starting bid was set at what I paid for it before the panic.

    Price will come back down. Perhaps not to what they were, but to within reason.
    When they do, I'll buy another case or two for the next panic (because there's always the next panic).
     
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    Reloadron Senior Member

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    Pretty cool video of how those little rimfires are made. I have also seen videos of the Lake City plant in operation. Interesting stuff.

    Yeah. go figure, four million rounds per day and currently the stuff is hard to fine and that's just CCI.

    Ron
     
  9. Coyote3855

    Coyote3855 Senior Member

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    This week I received 1400 rounds of CCI mini mags from Cabela's. I ordered in late December. I think future prices will be driven by market and will return to something like pre panic. But I don't have a crystal ball.
     
  10. Queen_of_Thunder

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    I've been waiting fo the wolf extra match to come back in stock. It shoots very well in my Hammerli.
     
  11. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Senior Member

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    I think you're "stretching" a bit here. Hmm... using your rationale, it would take me 5 years to acquire a single 50-ct box of 22 ammo. So where is the "hope"?

    Otherwise... welcome to the forum.
     
  12. ID-shooting

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    It is only the idiots paying those prices. I bought three 50-round boxes of CCI .22 lr at wally world yesterday for $2.97 each, the wife went in later and bought 3 more.

    While morons are complaining about paying so much for .22 ammo I am going shooting later today.
     
  13. Mobuck

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    Anyone in the position of "needing" to buy 22lr now should have their hands slapped for not being better prepared. Twenty two ammo was cheap and easy to store so no reason not to have several thousand on hand. If you have a 22 and don't have at least 5K of ammo, go shut your hand in the first door you encounter.
     
  14. 22-rimfire

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    I have quite a bit cached away for my needs. Other than a pyschological influence on shooting in general, this ammunition shortage has absolutely no effect on my shooting. I pulled 5,000 rounds out of my cabinet the other day to make room and you couldn't even tell I removed any. Need to pull another couple 100 boxes out of the cabinet.

    The fact is it doesn't bother me in the winter to not be shooting much, but as it warms up for Spring, I wll start going thorugh some ammunition. The shortage has the effect of making me not want to shoot at all and that is just ridiculous.
     
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  15. tjs45d

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    What I was trying to say it that there is a LOT of production capacity, and CCI is only one of a number of .22LR manufacturers. I would hope that supply would start coming back soon. Can 100 million rifle owners buy all of the supply? Due to current events, it obviously can, but at some point, manufacturing by multiple companies at these kind of volumes "should" catch up to demand..

    Point taken on the 5 years to accumulate a 50 round box..

    Thanks for the welcome...!
     
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  16. heeler

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    I too was very lucky the other day and found a brick of Aguila 22LR at Midway for $28.99 and I also found and ordered 10 boxes of 50 count Aguila I am pretty sure it was $3.19 a box at Natchezz.
    Of course it's gone now.
    Both of these places are following a good business model by keeping their prices in check with reality.
    And looking at Midway's site it appears a lot of 22 ammo will be coming in the next several weeks.
    I know it's not easy being patient,especially if you have no ammo,but this thing is starting to change.
     
  17. wally

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    That is less than 1 months supply for my wife and I, hardly a "stockpile", ten times that was our starting point so we hope to get thru the current craziness.
     
  18. avs11054

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    Don't know if I have much hope right now. I got an e-mail from Midway the other day saying that they expect the current shortage to last at least another six months. The expected arrival date of all the ammo that is out of stock on their website keeps getting pushed back, so I tend to believe the e-mail.
     
  19. stinger26

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    Scored 5K of CCI Blazer the other day while monitoring the web and received it Friday. Paid a little more, but it should last til things get closer to normal.
     
  20. breakingcontact

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    Unfortunately I don't think things will return to "normal" as in the before times. Prices will hopefully come down as quantities increase but there will be a new normal. I saw boxes of 22mag today for the first time in months. CCI w the swamp choot 'em guy. $40 I believe.
     
  21. husbandofaromanian

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    I just bought a case (5,000 rounds) of SK Pistol match from www.champchoice.com
    The Price was very reasonable. I am very happy with this company.
    I thanked them for not gouging when I bought them.
     
  22. doc2rn

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    I shoot a lot of .22 lr and it would be my favorite rimfire if it wasn't for the .22 WMR! Now if only that price wasn't so outrageous to begin with...
     
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    Thanks for sharing! Great vid!
     
  24. coolluke01

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    All those workers are moving too slow! Step it up! lol

    To all those who say "if you don't have ammo to shoot you should slam your hand in the door for being so stupid and unprepared" You have no idea what you are talking about. Many of us buy ammo when we can afford it! It's those who are stocking up for the next tragedy who are driving up the prices. Yes .22 was cheap, but 3 little kids aren't.
    This "I told you so" garbage has got to stop!

    You won't hear me complaining about how ammo is so expensive and everyone is gouging. It's the free market, I understand that. Those that have money to spend will have ammo. You may drive a nicer car than me too, but don't through it in my face.

    I'm not completely unprepared either. I have about 1500 .22 rounds right now for my rifles. .22 for my AA conversion kit is another story though. I have had a hard time finding Golden bullets for it for a while now around here. CCI mini mags are an option but they are 2x-3x the cost of GB's.
     
  25. coolluke01

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    So I should slam my head in a car door because I didn't by gas and store it when it was cheaper? No, I drive less.

    My point is, just because someone would like to buy ammo right now so they can shoot, it doesn't mean they are morons for not stocking up earlier.

    Why so volatile? Why so quick to turn on your own? I'll tell you why. Many gun owners truly do have inferiority complexes. Short fat men feel big when they have a gun. Same way you feel big and powerful with a keyboard. Now, note I said some, not all. This same "some" are represented in other sports or hobbies as well. If the shoe fits...

    Things are not as black and white as you would like them. I happen to be a highly motivated, long range thinking investor. I don't have ten's of thousands of rounds in my dungeon because I am investing in other things right now. I don't see that as worthy of smashed appendages.

    I didn't mean to side rail the OP. But this line of thinking is getting very tiring and simply sickening.
     

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