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243, 270, 30-06, 7mm

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Shawn 357, Nov 11, 2006.

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  1. Shawn 357

    Shawn 357 Member

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    I made a deal with my little brother that if he got good grades I would buy him a hunting rifle. He held up his end of the bargain so now I have to do my part. My little brother weighs 87 lbs soaking wet, is 13 yrs old, and has never shot a gun in his life.
    I have shot 30-06, 300win mag, 375, 308 but I have never shot 7mm, 243, 270, etc. What caliber rifle should I get him?

    He will be using the rifle to hunt wild boar, deer, maybe coyotes etc.

    I would like to get him a rifle that he will be able to take hunting for the next ten years and not outgrow because I don't have the money to buy him this rifle let alone another one in 5 yrs. I would like some input on what is a good caliber to take down medium game, with little recoil, and has easily accesible cheap amo.

    I appreciate all help!
     
  2. MarshallDodge

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    I vote for .243, especially since he has no shooting experience.

    I remember shooting my Dad's 30-06 when I was 13 and although I loved it, I always had a sore shoulder.
     
  3. MrPillow

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    He should be able to handle the .243 and .270, possibly the .30-06 assuming he is taught good shooting posture. Remember, butt plate + collar bone = painful weekend.
     
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    Another vote for the .243. Federal sells a load with 100 grain Nosler Partitions that will work well for deer and hogs. He can use lighter bullets for coyotes.
     
  6. Shell Shucker

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    I vote 243. You can buy factory ammo from 55 gr for low recoil to 100 gr for game. Take him shooting as much as possible.
     
  7. Shawn 357

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    Thank you all for the responses! It sounds like 243 is the way to go. I have never shot anything smaller than a 308 so I had no idea what to get him. The first time I shot a firearm I was 14 and 100 lbs and someone handed me a 375magnum with a synthetic stock and said "shoot this", I soon learned what a scope cut was:)
    I was thinking of getting him a Savage or CZ because I want to try keeping the cost around $600 total (including scope). Any recomendations?

    Thanks again.
     
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  8. MrPillow

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    Ruger's are usually very well priced, as are Weatherby Vanguards.
     
  9. Shawn 357

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    Thanks Mr. P I didn't even think of the two.
     
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    30-30. Not on your list, but the bestest/most useful chambering out there if wild piggies are on the menu and recoil is an issue.
     
  11. Shawn 357

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    Rbernie,
    I have never shot 30-30 but just assumed it recoiled like a 30-06. I am open to, and appreciate all suggestions on caliber an rifle.

    Thank you all!
     
  12. lamanna

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    I seem to remember the Winchester 94 30-30 I shot had similar recoil to an old bolt action Ruger in .270. If anything the .270 was slightly more. Was a while back though, memory might be a little off.
     
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    Get the boy a 7mm-08. Popular round, easy recoil and excellent ballictics. I think it is more versatile the a 243 also.
     
  14. Shawn 357

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    Redranger,
    Is the 7mm 08 relatively inexpensive? Whatever I get him I am going to want him to shoot a lot so I want to make sure the ammo is reasonably priced.

    Thanks.
     
  15. A_Swede_17_1911

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    I would check out the Steven 200, look at the .243 Winchester. I would also look at the 30-30 Lever action as well. I like the 336 Marlin my self and thats what im using to hunt with this year.

    The 30-30 would work fine for Deer, and Hogs as well.

    The 243 would work well for deer and hogs as well.

    You could definatly set up Stevens 200 rifle with a scope for $450.

    The Stevens rifle is the same as the savage rifles just without the accutrigger, and with the old savage plastic stock. Its a great value and can be found for under $300.
     
  16. Shawn 357

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    Thanks for all the info!
    I am going to check out the Stevens in 243.

    Again, I appreciate everyone helping out on this I know my little brother will be ecstatic.:D
     
  17. grizz

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    Good for you helping motivate your little brother like that. Sounds like you're a great bro.

    I'd vote .243 Stevens or Marlin 30-30.
     
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    A 30-30 recoils much less than 30-06. Probably a little less than the .243, but the .243 gets my vote.
     
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    how about a 30-06 and a good recoil pad?
     
  20. Shell Shucker

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    A 30-06 that is light enough for an 87 lb 13 year old to handle better have a REALLY GOOD RECOIL PAD. I can't think of a better way to discourage a kid than to hand him a rifle that kicks the snot out of him.

    If your little brother has never shot before get him a .22 and save the centerfire for later.
     
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    I'd get him a .30-06 and either use Remington's Managed Recoil round, or make a light load yourself, if you reload.
     
  22. Lonestar.45

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    Get the .270. Perfect deer/hog round. Use a Limbsaver slip on recoil pad for range shooting. In the field, he won't need one because he will not notice recoil in the least when sighting in on a big buck.

    Or, get the .270 and use the Managed Recoil rounds, which will kick light (like a .243), and when he grows, he can go up to full sized rounds, and this way have a deer rifle for life.

    I'd say away from the .243. It is a good round in experienced hands, but the .270 will give him a little more margin for error.
     
  23. lubbockdave

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    If you are looking for the cheapest option, the stevens 200 in .243-used with scope mounts and bases might be a good option-there are probably many more used savages out there with scope mounts, scope etc...

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=60323818

    is a NIB option-has it all but a sling though-and you could do some looking and find a nice used one of these for $100 to $200 less.

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=60245482

    used, older model with a synthetic stock-good "all weather" option if you need and nice and cheap-but I'd probably up-grade the scope.


    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=60367165

    a cheap stevens...you would need to buy bases and scope rings though, as well as a scope, so probably add another $100-$150 to the total-

    The CZ is a little more expensive but will come with rings and if you find a used one you might get a scope in the deal-the CZ's do have the single set trigger which is nice, but not necessary and some would argue is dangerous for a new shooter

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=60380165


    Of course, the above examples would assume you decided on .243, which might be my first choice as well. The bolt action .270 would not be a bad 2nd option, depending on the kids tolerance to recoil-I'd lean towards the .243 myself though, with the 30-30 getting serious consideration-again especially if cost was a big factor-I picked up my last Marlin 336 30-30 that was like new, with scope, rings and bases I am out a grand total of $240 and I can put 5 rounds into 1 inch at 100 yards with that little buggar!!

    Good luck with what ever you decide-make sure you take him out for lots of practice!!

    Dave
     
  24. Shawn 357

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    I am taking him out shooting over Thanksgiving and the people I am going with are doing me a favor and bringing a bunch of different rifles so that I can teach him on the 22 and then have him fire a 243, 270, 7mm to see how he handles the recoil.

    Thanks everyone for all the help!
     
  25. atblis

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    243 is okay

    though 270 with these loads would also be good (or 308 ). Later you can step up to regular loads.

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