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25-06 v 270

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Old Scratch, Nov 14, 2010.

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  1. Old Scratch

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    270 is still quite popular for deer here in Michigan. Any thoughts on the 25-06? I never see them around, although it would seem like a higher velocity, even milder recoil alternative.
     
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    If I was only going to own one centerfire hunting rifle (perish the thought!) and my choices were either a .25-06 or a .270 I would always pick the .270. It shoots nearly as flat as the .25-06, but slings a heavier bullet that can be used to step up to larger game than deer when used with a premium bonded or expanding copper solid bullet.

    Now if you already owned a .270, .280, .280AI, or .30-06 and wanted to add the high stepping .25-06 for antelope and such then by all means go for it.

    Not to disrespect the .25-06, it's a great deer/antelope round, but the .270 is more versatile.
     
  4. sappyg

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    straight up i'll pick the 270 winchester over the 25-06 any day of the week.
     
  5. Jonny V

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    Agreed, you can do a lot more with the 270 than you can with the 25-06.
     
  6. atblis

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    If you plan on hunting deer most of the time, 270.

    If you plan on spending a decent amount of time shooting varmints, but want to plug the odd deer...25-06.

    If you find a deal on a rifle you like in either caliber... go for it.
     
  7. DirtyHarry31

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    270 Winchester is the most versitile. Wider range of bullets to use, flat shooting, point at anything & hit it caliber. I have a Remington 700 Sendero in 270 & it's a tack driver. Get some nice optics & you'd be ready to reach way out & touch something. Easier on recoil except when heavy bullets are used. It's a 7mm diameter bullet (.277) & the ballistic co-efficeint is ballanced for weight to length ratio. Hit's magnum velocities with 130 & lighter bullets. You can read in any forum where people have dropped elk with a heavy bullet no problem. Can get a variety of ammo anywhere. IMO
     
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    a .270 uses .277 caliber bullets, a 7mm uses .284 and are not interchangeable. both of them do have good b.c's though
     
  9. Kachok

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    The advantage of the 25-06 is with their high speed 100 gr bullets with an aprox .400 BC. 110gr 270s are not as streamlined. With the 115-120s the 25-06 is not any faster then the 130gr 270. Either way it is a lower recoiling alternative, and many of the 25-06 fans swear by the 117 gr HPBTs they say the terminal ballistics make them kill quicker then the 130gr 270s.
     
  10. pabst_20

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    .270 win in a Remington 700 SPS
     
  11. Justin Holder

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    I like both, but would choose the 25-06 because it is a better fit for Texas hunting. (ie: the 270 can't do anything the 25-06 can't do with less recoil)

    A 115 or 120 grain Nosler Partition gives it performance equal to the larger bore.
     
  12. sig220mw

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    Stick with the 270. If you handload you can use 100 grain bullets in it for varminting. They will be screamers at 3200 to 3400 fps. Use the 130, 140 or 150 grainers for big game.

    Although I must say I know a fellow who uses 100 grain bullets in his 270 for deer and does so with great success.
     
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    The ONLY thing I would choose the .270 for over the .25-06 is elk. If you are not shooting elk the .25-06 will kill a deer as well or better than a .270 and will shoot flatter too. However, if you don't handload the .270 has a lot more choices for factory ammo. If you do handload the .25-06 is probably the most fun caliber to load for aside from 6.5 stuff.
     
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    I'd take the .280 over the .270 too. I might even take it over the .30-06, but I already have a .30-06, and it is hard to find rifles chambered in .280
     
  15. MistWolf

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    I did take the 280 over the 270. Still, the 270 is a classic
     
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    No contest, the .280Rem. is quite simply the best cartridge (at least from a design standpoint), however it isn't the easiest cartridge to find nor is it the cheapest, so I would probably have to go with the .270Win. or '06Spd. if I didn't handload. One of my ongoing projects is a .280Rem. conversion...doesn't mean i'll abandon the '06...but i'll probably use it less.

    BTW, I would definitely take the .270Win. over the .25-06Rem., the former is still a bit overbore...but the .25-06Rem. is a screamer; IMO there is simply no reason to waste all that powder on that dinky little bullet.

    :)
     
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    280 Ackley Improved
     
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    Flip a coin. Be sure that you can find ammo if you don't handload.
     
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    Thirty two years ago I bought my first centerfire rifle, a Remington 700 Varmint Special. I remember thinking the .243 was to small and I wanted a .270 Winchester. The man behind the counter ran down the list and told me the VS was not available in .270 and the closest cartridge to the .270 was the .25-06. Reluctantly I purchased the rifle in .25-06.

    In the 32 years I've owned the .25-06 I have never regretted that decision. I've hunted ground hogs in Ohio every chance I got. As a varmint cartridge the .25-06 is spectacular, it hits hard and shoots flat. If I could see a ground hog it was in mortal danger.

    The same rifle was used for deer hunting and went bear hunting in Canada with me. I never felt that I was under gunned. As long as I chose the right bullet all kills were one shot.

    After 32 years I did have to replace the barrel as the original was getting tired. I pretty much could have chosen any caliber or cartridge at this point. What did I pick? The choice was easy for me, .25-06.

    Everyone should own a .25-06. It's a fantastic cartridge for varmints to Elk.
     
  20. dougw47

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    25-06 vs 270

    At the moment, I have 3 270's. They have done everything I asked.

    For something new, I would consider a 25-06...had one 30 years ago (Ruger) and it was a big disappointment. But, that was the rifle, not the round.

    I have one friend that shoots the 25, and it is a one-shot deal on deer, hogs and 'lopes. Nice cartridge, just darned hard to find on a dealer's shelf.
     
  21. Old Scratch

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    Thanks for the input, gang.
     
  22. joed

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    When I bought the .25-06 I did not think it would be around long. I had to buy ammo at gun shops and soon learned to reload. Fast forward to now, even Walmart sells .25-06 ammo here. Not only has it hung on, it's gotten more popular.

    To dougw47, I also owned a Ruger 77 Varmint in .25-06 for a short while. For a rifle that was touted as being a target rifle it was not very accurate. May have kept it for a month and gave up. The only Ruger I have now is a Red Label shotgun, that one I like.
     
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    That reminds me of a dealer at a local gun show. He had two rifles side by side chambered for the same varmint cartridge (.22-250Rem. IIRC)...one a new Ruger M-77, the other a new Savage M-12. I was talking to a friend who asked me about the cartridge; I explained that I liked the Ruger, because of the CRF action, but it wasn't the right choice for such a chambering because they don't tend to be notably accurate (though they are said to be better than the older ones). The seller swore up and down that it would out-shoot the Savage any day of the week...I was rather amused by his failed attempt at a selling job.

    Then again...what do I know?...he could have sabotaged the Savage. :p
     
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    My Ruger .25-06 has trouble shooting groups larger than 3/4" @100. My Ruger .270 has trouble shooting groups less than 1.5" at same distance. Go figure. :eek:
     
  25. Kachok

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    I don't think you could ever go wrong deciding between the 25-06 and the 270 win, both are great. I have owned two 270s so I will probably go with the 25-06 next, Grandpa had one, quarter bores just rock. People that I have know who hunt with both all say the 25-06 drops deer a little quicker, although there is no logical reson why that should be the case.
     
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