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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by RKellogg, Apr 7, 2010.

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  1. RKellogg

    RKellogg Member

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    Any thoughts on a 25-06 for an all round gun , deer being the bigest game I would be hunting .
     
  2. X-Rap

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    I believe that it may be one of the greatest open country deer calibers out there. I will probably take one of mine on a Big Horn hunt if I am ever drawn for a tag.
    I took an Antelope at an even 1/4 mile with a sporterized Argentine Mauser on the last day of season one year and have done in deer at 300 + more than once. The 100 & 115 gr Ballistic Tips are very impressive.
    With all the good I have to say about it I will also say its no elk round, if you have any intention of such I would say move up to a 7mm or .30.
     
  3. Nico Testosteros

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    I believe that it will work quite well for what you describe.
     
  4. Arkansas Paul

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    For the hunting you describe, it is absolutely ideal, IMO.
    Don't see how you could do much better.
     
  5. Kentucky_Rifleman

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    The 25-06 is, in my humble opinion, the pinnacle of long cartridge 25 caliber development. The .257 Weatherby has better ballistics, but you pay a significant difference for what I consider a marginal increase in performance. Handloading brings out the cartridge's true potential for flat-shooting over long distances, and while factory ammunition is typically not as anemic as for many other older calibers, I recommend that 25 shooters take up reloading if they don't already do so. I'm also a huge fan of the .257 Roberts as the short-action counterpart to the -06.

    It is more than capable for any game up to and including deer, and I have killed more chucks than I care to count, several coyotes, and 18 whitetails with a Remington 700 in 25-06. I also agree with X-Rap that any game significantly heavier than deer, elk for example, are better suited to calibers offering heavier bullets.

    Hope this helps,

    KR
     
  6. CoRoMo

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    I love the .25-06, and we kill elk with 'em here. Actually, the .25 kills the elk, we just point it in the right direction.
     
  7. X-Rap

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    I'm sure many will say the same of the 243. I just don't think it is ideal for that big of an animal and wouldn't advise or claim such to someone shopping for new caliber.
    The debate is well documented and I am no hater or the 25, it just is not a do all of North America round.
     
  8. natman

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    The 25-06 is a great round for deer in open country. I notice the OP is in NY. If he's planning to hunt in the woods, there might be better choices.
     
  9. X-Rap

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    That might be true, I have seen some stands that overlooked some huge open fields and pastures in NY though.
    I try hard not to pigeon hole my taste in guns and calibers but rather enjoy the ownership of a variety of different guns for different applications.
    I live in western Colorado and enjoy using carbines as well as magnums to hunt big game and guess the same could be done all over the country.
    I have also seen enough evidence of bullet deflection to dispel any belief I may have had against the brush buster concept.
     
  10. CoRoMo

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    This past October, a large bull elk hit the ground from a single 117gr Nosler through both shoulders. To this day, he still doesn't realize he was hit with a less-than ideal cartridge.
     
  11. X-Rap

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    OK, I don't doubt it for a minute. Didn't say it couldn't be done.
     
  12. CoRoMo

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    I know, and I'm not trying to argue... am I?;)

    I don't want to make it sound like it is the do-all North American round, it's not. And you really have to know what you're doing if you're going to squeeze one off on an elk, but that's pretty much true for any round. It's a very impressive cartridge, but like all cartridges, it has limitations, and anything larger than deer is enticing those limitations into displaying themselves.
     
  13. X-Rap

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    Agreed
     
  14. jonboynumba1

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    You know it's odd...there's the Elmer Keith part of me that says it's a glorified varmint round...and I do honestly think it's on the light side as deer rifles go...though plenty of good calibers are right alongside it...and I've always heard they have about 1000K rounds max (if you are lucky) of accurate bbl. life...but then again big deal...that's a lot of deer killin inbetween barrels...and that is probably as true of my .300 win mag just as well.

    So then there's the Jack O' Conner side of me...and it can't believe I'd even deer hunt with a .300 mag when there is an accurate .270 with a good proven handload ready to go with me! And then I think....well crap how different is the .25-06' REALLY than my favorite .270?

    I have a couple buds that LOVE .25-06...it seems to be a pet caliber of theirs and they are very loyal to it...which strokes me as kinda funny given our location and terrain here in NW AL. but to each their own...no real reason to own a .300 here either...but I have one and have come to love it just as my trusted and favorite .270 win!

    I just can't wrap my brain around why the .300 seems like the perfect "deer gun" to so many...but then most .300 mag hunters would think me undergunned with a .277" Sierra Gameking SP boat tail over a charge of H4831SC running a modest 3000 FPS (REAL speed chrono'ed) out of a 22" bbl. but I've dropped piles of deer with that and never had one run! I think of the .300 as the .270 of the elk world...and aquired it as such and with such in mind...to throw 180gr .30 bullets at about the same speed as my .270 but with more knockdown and wind-bucking abillity and just as well matched for the Elk as my whitetail rifle of choice in .270...I've never Hunted elk yet keep in mind!-LOL Last year the boss and bud went...but sometime in the next few years it'll be my turn...and I want it well known to me...I could have just used my .270 with the right bullet (150gr partitions) but that wouldn't be as much fun as having another rifle!

    And here there are folks shooting ELK with .25-06's and saying they work fine...so in the end I guess it really comes down to shot placement and what you are comfortable with. I've never felt a "love connection" with the .25-06 and yet oddly I did really like the 6.5x55 for a time....so who knows...life is better with more flavors and calibers! Something for everyone and to each their own!

    To me deer hunting is all about the .270 win and anything bigger I like my new .300 toy for...though the two certainly overlap....I just couldn't justify a .338....and yet I still WANT a .338!! And other than take it up North or out West I have NO IDEA what I'd do with one in AL! But one day I want Africa...and I guess it might edge out the .300 as a general purpose rifle there....depending on what other rifles I own and take at that point...but I have some years to decide all of that! These are good desdcisions to have to make! Happy ones!
     
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  15. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    Yes, good choice for your purposes - excellent choice in fact.
     
  16. Maverick223

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    Never have cared for it myself, no real good reason, but 25cal. never did anything for me. I like .260Rem. or 6.5x55Swede for the use that you describe.

    :)
     
  17. BruM

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    I dont get it. The 30-06 has many different loads available off the shelf. A quick look showed 125gr to 220 gr factory loads. With such a big range of bullet weights the same gun can be used for most anything in NA so whats the big deal with the 25-06 at 117 GR???
     
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    I've owned a .25-06 for 32 years, nothing like it in my opinion. With the 87 gr bullets it is the hardest hitting varmint cartridge you've ever seen. With the 100 to 120 gr bullets it's good for just about anything you'd encounter in the US. Trajectory is very flat. Not to offend anyone but I prefer the .25-06 to any of the 6mm cartridges.

    Mine was the only rifle I owned until a few years ago when I added a .300 H&H Mag to the safe. The .25-06 was always my go to rifle.

    Barrel life is about 1000 rounds, I replaced mine 2 years ago after 30 years of shooting. That's not bad compared to some of the magnum rounds. Mine now has a Krieger match barrel which shoots even better then the stock barrel. When I wear this one out I'll probably get another Krieger.
     
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    That's pretty bad, but not terribly important for a hunting rifle IMO. At least you have good taste in barrels. ;)
     
  20. Uncle Mike

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    I don't know...a bullet doesn't know if it's flying 200y across a bean field or 200y through the woods, as long as no limbs are hit! :p

    I'm not a really big fan either, but 10 thousands of an inch doesn't make a gnats azz difference either, I will say that I like the gas tank of the 25-06 better than the 260. :neener:

    Aren't you supposed to buy another rifle for each different bullet weight you shoot? I mean I have a 30-06 for 150gr and 165gr stuff...then there is the one for 220gr pills, never really use a 180 grainer....and there's the 308 for 155's and the one for 175gr and 177gr, and then.....

    Besides, it is a royal pain to switch bullet weights if your making a wide jump, say from 125gr to 165gr or 220gr.

    No offense, the M&M cartridges are only popular with the Starbucks bunch....whoops! :D :neener:
     
  21. Pokyman

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    Subject has sorta veered off track from the original thought, but I couldn't help it when the subject turned to 6MM.
    My brother shot a 6MM for years, killing a lot of Mule deer and quite a number of elk- one shot one kill.
    I kept telling him that the 6 MM was too small and one of these days he would wound and lose an elk. Nevef did happen but he finally moved all the way up to a 25-06. Same results as the 6MM- One shot one kill. He is a good shot and always puts the bullets where they count.
     
  22. Maverick223

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    I said it wasn't justified...doesn't mean I'll change my mind though. :neener: Fine a 6.5-06A-Square then. Which btw is no longer a wildcat, but still a bit obscure, and burns up barrels just about as fast as the .25-06Rem.

    :)
     
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    Had one(25/06) since early 1970, at the time it was the largest legal caliber for hogs(in GA), back then hogs were small game. It was one hell of a hog gun and I also found out it was a hell of deer gun too! Never killed anything bigger than a hog or deer with mine, but I would feel OK shooting a mule deer or elk with a Nosler Partion or such type bullet.

    Jimmy K
     
  24. natman

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    True enough, but if you're making 200 yard shots you're not woods hunting, at least according to my definition.

    In the woods where I hunt you can't even see 100 yards, much less get a shot that long. The stretched string trajectory of a 25-06 is wasted there, so I'd rather trade it for some more bullet diameter and weight, not to mention a lever action to deliver it with.

    Of course it all depends on where the OP intends to hunt, which is why I asked.
     
  25. Lloyd Smale

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    I love the caliber. I use more 25 cal rifles then any other. the 2506 is a great gun when shots are on the far side of a 100 yards. Up close in the whitetail woods around here its a meat destroyer if your not absoulutely precise with your shot. the 257 and 250 are a bit better for the close in stuff but the 2506 kills deer way out there like a lightning bolt hit them.
     
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