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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by HBHUNTER, Mar 29, 2019.

  1. HBHUNTER

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    HIGH Members, I'm reloading soon for a new ,270 Classic Sako and I am fond of using my reliable IMR 4350 with likely 140 gr or 150 gr Nosler Partitions. what suggestions would you recommend, I plan on working up a load. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
     
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  2. troy fairweather

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    welcome 4350 is good definitely go for the 150gr.
     
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  3. mustanger98

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    Well, being a Hornady fan, I don't know much about Nosler other than a lot of guys here talk about them. You're talking about an elk round... which one has the higher BC and SD? More importantly, which one turns out to be more accurate in your rifle?
     
  4. LRDGCO

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    Ken Waters 1997 Update on the 270 Win notes the 150 Nosler Ballistic Tip over 54 grs IMR4831 as “very accurate, best all-around load, 2,843 FPS in 22” barrel”. He was using a post ‘64 Model 70.
     
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  5. jmorris

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    I’d start with a spectrum of premium factory loads to see what it might like best.

    Who knows, might just use what’s left in a box, if it was spectacular for the hunt.

    I do enjoy reloading and “building a better mousetrap” but I also keep things simple sometimes.

    If nothing else I always like to have a good baseline to work from.
     
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  6. mustanger98

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    My .270 load used Hornady's 140gr BTSP... same 54gr charge of IMR4831.

    Yup.
     
  7. Gtscotty

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    4350 works well for 130gr bullets at decent, but not top speeds, but it wouldn't be my choice for loading 140gr and 150gr bullets to their potential. I got the best velocities with 150gr bullets using Reloder 23 and 26, I'd probably start with RL23 (good velocities and temp insensitive) and 150gr bullets and see what my accuracy load clocked at. I was at 56.7gr and over 2,900 fps in a 22in barrel with my load work up.

    The only elk I shot with a .270 was with a 140gr Accubond over 62 gr of IMR7977 for 2,930 fps out of a 22" barrel. It worked fine, but if I was working up an elk load for a .270 now, I'd lean towards the 150gr Accubond introduced this year, paired with RL23 or RL26.
     
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  8. HBHUNTER

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    Thanks for your reply, sound wisdom for sure. Every rifle is different for different loads, accuracy, fps, and most of all results in the field. It seems all the work and time put in makes it fun and rewarding.
     
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  9. HBHUNTER

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    Thanks for your reply, much appreciated. I may get some of the RL23 powder because I hear that those who use it have good things to say about it. Thanks again.
     
  10. Galil5.56

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    This is a quote from Jack O'Connor:

    "150 grain bullet, controlled expanding type at 2900-2950 fps with 58.5 grains of old H4831(war surplus), 54 grains of 4350, ...... Some may not agree with me but I have found it (.270 Win) a fine Elk load and an excellent one for large African antelope. Bob Lee used the Nosler version on leopard, lion, kudu, and gemsbok."

    Of course accommodations to the work-up with modern lots of H4831, is a given. Good luck.
     
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  11. Captcurt

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    Sounds to me like you are already on the mark. It doesn't get much better.
     
  12. lordpaxman

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    There are a lot of load combinations that work, including 4350, the question is do they work for you. Nosler publishes what they believe is the "most accurate" load.
    https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/270-winchester/
    How do you plan to "work up" this load?
     
  13. HBHUNTER

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    Galil5.56- Thanks for your input. I have some work ahead of me for working up a load but I'll enjoy the process. I'll have to chrono the loads and work my up to what works best for the rifle. I really enjoy this Forum because of all the experience and knowledge that is shared. Thank you !
     
  14. HBHUNTER

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    Lordpaxman: I plan on trying both IMR 4350 and RL 23 independently of course and journal the results with, each load, brass, primers, velocity, bullet seating depth used etc. I hope the data should indicate what I'll use. Thank you for your input.
     
  15. Galil5.56

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    Welcome friend. Your quest sounds like fun, and will be interesting to read of your progress and results... I know I'll be looking, as will many others. Good luck.
     
  16. lordpaxman

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    Either powders should do well. Since you're using Nosler, you may want to try their Accubond - similar to their partition. I was just curious if you had or used a methodology to determine an optimum load. Like OCW or the ladder or something. Best of luck and, even more important, where will you be hunting elk?
     
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  17. HBHUNTER

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    Lordpaxman: I like hunting in NM and AZ. I haven't drawn in AZ for some time but was drawn this fall. In addition, I have a private land owner hunt in NM. I have hunted those critters since 1994. Muzzleloader prior to the in-line muzzleloaders with scopes, I enjoyed deed hunting in Utah, and Elk in Idaho. My favorite is Central Eastern AZ. It brings back the hunting experience and sharing a common interest with my belated father. I do most of this stuff for him as well as for myself.

    The .270 is coming soon and I want to prepare the best I can. The SAKO .280 has been my go to rifle but I want to get this rifle squared away.

    Thanks for your input
     
  18. eam3clm@att.net

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    I'll second Jack on using H4831, but I use the short cut version.
     
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    I'm using imr 4831, uses less powder and I'm seeing better results
     
  20. HBHUNTER

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    LRDGCO - thank you for your input it will steer me in the right direction.
     
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    Third for H4831! A great powder in 270 and 06!
     
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  22. Enfielder

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    Ain't no way a .270 is powerful enough for an Elk. My uncle shot one once with a .270 back in '67 and it damn near torn him up with them damn big antlers. He still has a limp from it and can only see around corners in that one eye.
    Get yourself one them old .505 Gibbs. That'll do your job real nice like but you still may have to track him some.



    Just kidding. I love 150grn JRN in my .270 I put it on top of a grain under max of 4064. They shoot straight in my gun and they hit hard.
     
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  23. Galil5.56

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    You write in jest... But... Jack O'Connor wrote about prominent hunters/writers of his day who were dead serious, with such cutting criticism concerning the .270's effectiveness, "they left you "disemboweled and bleeding on the ground". One such writer/shooter was Elmer Kieth no less. Jack is quoted:

    "Elmer Kieth the gun writer says he tried the .270 on Elk, and found it 'a miserable failure' ". Dayum! I love Elmer and all he did, heck I even had a rifle with his inspection stamp, but... Always interesting when two giants spar.
     
  24. Enfielder

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    For the past 10 years, I've had a constant and redundant education in anatomy and physiology. The simple fact about shooting anything that can die is this: make enough blood leave the circulation and it will stop moving. Until then, it will most likely run from you. A .270 will let blood out just as easy as most any other caliber here in North America.
     
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