Gtscotty
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Burning nearly 20grs more powder at 3ksi higher pressure through an ever so slightly larger bore...? No way, you've got that one backwards.
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Burning nearly 20grs more powder at 3ksi higher pressure through an ever so slightly larger bore...? No way, you've got that one backwards.
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Are you going to dial a scope or no? If not, I'd go 270 for the faster and flatter options.
earlthegoat2
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A year or two ago, there would have been much less support for the 270 as there is now. People are starting to realize for the ranges that people can actually shoot accurately at, so under 300, you don’t need a semi-specialized cartridge and rifle combination.
On that note, the 6.5 CM has this and only this going for it. It has an appropriate throat for heavier high BC 6.5mm bullets and it has factory rifles with the proper twist to shoot them. That is its jam. All of this can be done with custom rifles in a variety of different calibers of your choosing if you don’t want 6.5 CM.
Or you can do factory rifles in a great variety of other different chamberings and have perfectly adequate hunting accuracy at sensible hunting ranges.
I’d use the .308 you already have.
Old Dog
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Following the opinions here with moderate interest as I'm still pondering whether I "need" a rifle in 6.5 CM.
But for those of us at a certain age -- particularly those of us with severe shoulder damage and some nerve problems, anything with less recoil can be a compelling argument.
And hey, at least we're not re-hashing .308 vs .30-06... or .270 vs. .30-06. Who says we're still having the same old arguments about caliber choices?
But for those of us at a certain age -- particularly those of us with severe shoulder damage and some nerve problems, anything with less recoil can be a compelling argument.
And hey, at least we're not re-hashing .308 vs .30-06... or .270 vs. .30-06. Who says we're still having the same old arguments about caliber choices?
Risky buisness
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Interesting, in past discussions guys would get wild about which caliber was " the best " and argue that they had to have the additional velocity to make it a lazer death ray. We see now that its moderating some, where the 6.5, while slower is gaining some momentum with shooters. I personally have no use for a 6.5, but see a niche where it would be usefull.
My 270 will do essentially anything asked of it and have noticed recently that places that sell factory ammo, have 270, but 6.5...not so much.
Its reall a toss up, both calibers will do fine, personal preference
My 270 will do essentially anything asked of it and have noticed recently that places that sell factory ammo, have 270, but 6.5...not so much.
Its reall a toss up, both calibers will do fine, personal preference
Old Dog
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What I am noticing is that there always seems to be .25-06 and .243 on the shelves. I almost went down to Cabelas today to pick up that Tikka or CZ in .243 on sale. 'Course, if I'd done that, all the .243 would dry up, too.
6.5 with 120 gr. pills and a good pad might not be a bad combo for recoil.
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I have been thinking of a new long gun and have poured over the numbers BD speed energy 270,308 6.5, 06 they all will do what I need it to do in ethical hunting ranges. Now do I get the new kid and look like I the hip dude, or stay in the classics? A few feet, a few psi, a few inches, hell witch one makes me feel & looks good. I love the chase I don't need to hit quarry in a different county.
Bullet comparison:
Left: 277 Sierra 130 gr. Game King.
Right: .264 Sierra 120 gr. Pro Hunter.
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Left: 277 Sierra 130 gr. Game King.
Right: .264 Sierra 120 gr. Pro Hunter.
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Funny, I was just looking at something like 400rnds of 7wsm for 20-25 bucks a box....the expensive premium stuff.....
And thinking about buying one....not that I need a whole lot of encouragement......
To bad I bought a new 7mm this month.
troy fairweather
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There's still room in your life for a 7wsm lol. You don't have a short mag do you.
cdb1
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From the early 70’s until ten years ago I did the vast majority of my hunting with a .270. For the last ten years it’s been with a 6.5x55 in a modern action using Berger 130 grain Hunting VLD’s. I think we can all agree that ballistically my Swede is the same as a 6.5 Creedmoor.
At the distances I shoot, less than 350 yards, I can’t differentiate between the performance of the two, zero, zilch.
The only difference I can tell is with recoil which was my purpose in going with a 6.5x55.
At the distances I shoot, less than 350 yards, I can’t differentiate between the performance of the two, zero, zilch.
The only difference I can tell is with recoil which was my purpose in going with a 6.5x55.
I have two of the original short mags 7mm Remington and 300 Winchester!!!
It's more the fact that my piggy bank is squealing like it just got gut shot....I do have a whole pile of interesting scopes coming in tho maybe I can get rid of a 6.5 and any of the scopes i don't like and fund a used 7wsm.....
....maybe the OP should get a 7wsm........
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i don,t what animals you guys are shooting, that you need 10-15 shots to kill, but for hunting recoil does not bother me one bit. last year i shot six shots at deer in two weeks, taking four. i sight in useing a lead sled. on six hunting trips to africa i used a .375 H&H mag for shooting over 90 precent of the 68 animals i shot with out noticing any recoil at all.
Yep, within reason, recoil is almost a non factor for hunting. I shot a pig with my .458 Winchester Magnum a couple of years ago, and afterwards couldn't remember the recoil, just getting the sight picture back and seeing the pig down.
Captcurt
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You're right. I have shot a couple hundred 120gr and can't tell the difference between it and my 243. Plus, they will knock a whitetail on it's, uh, tail.
FL-NC
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6.5. Very accurate, flat shooter, low recoil. Don't worry about the barrel life on a hunting rifle, unless you are doing something that requires a high round count like shooting prairie dogs every day.
Captcurt
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I can only remember a few shots at game when I felt the recoil. The main one that comes to mind was a turkey that I shot left handed. A 3" 12ga 2 1/4oz Active kicked three of my teeth loose. I wear dentures now because of it. I added up the numbers and it was around 55 pounds of recoil. A 30-06 is about 20 pounds.
cdb1
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My right shoulder has been operated on three times. I notice recoil even when hunting.
All depends on how you shoot. Normal hunting and sighting in you're not going to wear either one out any sooner than the other...
JFrank
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Interesting /timely I’ve come across your post as I recall distinctly seeing muzzle flash as I watched a white tail Buck drop in his tracks last week through my scope with zero recoil memory. I knew exactly where I hit him also
WisBorn
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Both the 6.5cm and 270 win are great cartridges. With the 308 win you have the bases covered.
I would find a rifle that you love first and then pick the cartridge.
When Weatherby started to make the UL MARK V IN LH I wanted one and had to decide on which round. It was not offered in 30-06 or 308 win. So I needed to decide on 7mm or 300 mag and went with the 7rm and never regretted my decision.
I am waiting/wanting a Ruger American LH and will probably get it in 6.5cm. We will see what is available when the time comes.
I would find a rifle that you love first and then pick the cartridge.
When Weatherby started to make the UL MARK V IN LH I wanted one and had to decide on which round. It was not offered in 30-06 or 308 win. So I needed to decide on 7mm or 300 mag and went with the 7rm and never regretted my decision.
I am waiting/wanting a Ruger American LH and will probably get it in 6.5cm. We will see what is available when the time comes.
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Old Dog
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This is where I was coming from. Those without issues such as this who've gotten into or past middle age probably take some things for granted. Why I haven't picked up the .45-70 for some time now and absolutely hate demo'ing the shotgun at work now..
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