30-30 h335?

[4895]

I am working a load up for a javelina hunt next week starting with Varget and 150 grain Sierra flat nose. If you want I will post some results. I might load some Hornady 165 grain polymer tipped lever boolits with Leverevolution and/or H4895. I am shooting tomorrow so I will load tonight.

 

[sharpshooter81]

thanks goose for your 30-30 info it has been most helpful!!

 

[4895]

I went shooting Sunday and here are the following results.

Sierra FN 150 grain bullet:

H335 max load of 33.0 grains gave a decent group at 50 yards, (2 inch), with less recoil and report than other powders.

Varget midrange load of 33.0 grains gave a similar result as H335 with bit more recoil.

Hornady 160 grain FTX bullets:

Loaded 32.5, 33.5, 34.5, 35.5, and 37.0 grains of leverevolution powder.

34.5 was good with a 1.5 inch group, the rest were as good as H335 or Varget with more recoil and louder report.

The 37.0 grain load is listed in my Hornady book as max, and all I can say is WOW. It does have more recoil than other loads, but 3 shots were almost touching at 50 yards with Williams peep sight. I would say 1/2" center to center max. This is definately my go to load.

I wasn't able to test at 100 or 200 yards as they were full up. I got there early 8am opening time, and tested 7 different load, and the long range filled quickly. I took some pics with my cell phone but can't find the cable to download them to the computer. I will post them if you want when I can find the cable. Hope this helps, my rifle is a Winchester 94 1971 year .30-30 with 20 inch barrel I think. Again, I am going to order more FTX bullets in the future and stick with Leverevolution powder, which is a ball powder that meters well. It is the shiznit. Good luck, YMMV.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Yeah I have a book called "The ABC's of Reloading" and it gives a great breakdown on all the powders and what their common usages are. It says...."H335 is a double base spherical powder that produces excellent shooting in 22, and 30 caliber cases.".....

I think the 22 they were referring to is the .223 (5.56mm NATO) and the 30 they were referring to is the .308 (7.62mm NATO), not all 30 caliber loads.

From what I understand H335 or it's surplus cousin WC844 are used in the small NATO round the BL-C(2) WC846 are used in the large NATO round.

Like said above, there are many powders that will work well in the 30-30 and it can be loaded with powders with a wide range of burn rates. that's probably because the 30-30 is a fairly low pressure round but that's just a guess on my part.

 

[Clark]

The 30-30 is SAAMI registered at 42,000 psi and 54,600 - 58,800 psi with a case head base of ~ .14 sq in. That would be 5,800 pounds of thrust normally and test 7,600 - 8,200 pound thrust.

Wimp:
Looking at Win 1894 and Marlin 336 actions, I am not too inspired.
I have not gone through an analysis, but they just don't look beefy enough to push brass to the limit.

Medium:
The Sav99, I guess I have one of those in 30-30 too, looks much stronger, but still locks up in the back, which will stretch brass.

Good:
The Sav 219 break action looks good, and I have pushed it to near the limit of the cartridge itself. Quickload thinks I am at 83kpsi when I ran out of case volume, but Large Boxer primers will pierce around there.
I have converted a Mosin Nagant to 30-30 and it looks good.
I guess I have a Win 1885 falling block high wall in 30-30, and it looks good.

 

[tahoe2]

H-335

I use H-335 in a Savage model 99 in .300 Savage with Sierra 150 grn pro hunter bullets, my Speer #11 manual lists a starting load of 33 grns and goes up to 39.5 for a max load. I get my best groups at 38.5 grains which as you can see is 1 grn below max with no signs of excessive pressure. This powder burns very clean and recoil is mild, as are most .300 Savage loads. I have always been pleased with it's performance as well as BLC-2(almost exactly the same) for what it's worth

 

[kestak]

I base all my reloading data on Lyman manual, Speer manual, hodgdon website and people from here.

Welcome to reloading. Just ask all the questions you have. None will be taken as a stupid question. Better to ask than to make a mistake.

Trust me, I asked my fair share of questions here and ALWAYS got answers that were right.

 

[popper]

4895: I've used the FTX with 335, XBR, H4895 and lever. They will all do 1 MOA @ 100. I LIKE the lever. It makes noise and kicks, even more in 308ME. Works good for cast and I've gone down to 19 gr without problems (cast). I wouldn't try the reduced loads with H335.

 

[4895]

<popper>

I typically load 20.0 Grains of H-4895 in .30-30 with a 165 Grain Lead Flat Point hard cast bullet. I can remember even numbers better than most others (go figure). I have found that load is great for plinking on the cheap. I was absolutely amazed with the group I shot with 37.0 grains of Leverevolution powder and Hornady FTX 160 Grain bullets. I will be hunting soon and will find out how well they do in the 'real' world. Rifle is plain jane with open sights, just the way I like them.

 

[popper]

My son-in-law got a 300# piggy last year with 308ME FTX, did the job nicely(40 yds and the bullet didn't explode, broke the spine). Same bullet, different crimp groove location, so you are good-to-go. Plus you get an extra 50 yds effective range and less drop to compensate.