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30 cal can on a 22

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Mencius, Dec 10, 2012.

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  1. Mencius

    Mencius Member

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    Will a 30 cal suppressor quiet a 22? Any idea on how much louder it would be than a dedicated 22 suppressor? I really like the idea of having one can that can suppress several cals and the more weapons the better. And, really, suppressing a .30 would be great, even though it might not get used as much as the .22.

    I am guessing, it depends on the manufacturer?
     
  2. TurtlePhish

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    If you mean a .22lr, make sure the can is user-serviceable. .22lr leaves lots of nasty buildup that you'll want to clean out.
     
  3. mtrmn

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    My 30 cal can will quieten my 223 ARs every bit as well as it quietens my 308. I have not tried it on a 22LR, mainly due to the filth mentioned in other posts and I don't have a 22LR with a threaded barrel. I have full confidence that the 30 cal can would silence a 22LR quite well, but if you don't use subsonic ammo the bullet flight noise will be almost as loud as the un-suppressed 22LR.
     
  4. Mencius

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    Ok, awesome. This suppressor thing just gets better and better. Now I can get one suppressor to suppress everything except my G17...

    I will make sure the 30 suppressor is user cleanable.
     
  5. mtrmn

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    Most 22LRs have 1/2 - 28 threads as do most .223's with threaded barrels. Most 30 cals have 5/8 - 24 threads. I would suggest a QD type suppressor for this type of use between a lot of different guns. Then you buy adapters for all your guns and it's easy to swap out.

    Mine is a YHM 7.62 QD which takes a special flash suppressor that has external threads for the sound suppressor. If you intend to silence a handgun, maybe you can get some thread adapters instead and use a thread-on can. A flash suppressor/adapter would look kinda silly on a Ruger MkIII...:)

    I will probably get a rimfire suppressor sometime in the future. Right now I only have the 1 YHM. From reading on several different forums, it seems that although the YHM is well respected in the centerfire market, their rimfire suppressors leave a lot to be desired. I'll probably go with another brand with a rimfire.
     
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    If you are planning to move your suppressor among different guns, don't forget your "tactical oven mitt" they quickly get really hot!

    The oven mitt is also essential to be sure a screw on remains tight after every magazine change.
     
  7. mtrmn

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    I sometimes use a regular lead pencil and make a matchmark on my suppressor and adapter for a visual check to see if it's still tight. No burnt hands that way.
     
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    I guess that works fine if you are willing to stop shooting until it cools off enough to re-tighten it.

    Nice thing about the Osprey pistol cans is they are asymmetric so its obvious when they start to come loose.
     
  9. mtrmn

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    Wally:
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    I sometimes use a regular lead pencil and make a matchmark on my suppressor and adapter for a visual check to see if it's still tight. No burnt hands that way.

    I guess that works fine if you are willing to stop shooting until it cools off enough to re-tighten it.

    Nice thing about the Osprey pistol cans is they are asymmetric so its obvious when they start to come loose. "

    I never said I would not use something to assist in tightening it up---I just use a visual check TO SEE if it needs tightening. But mine has never backed off anyway-the YHM QD system works quite well.
     
  10. Swampman

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    Mencius,
    I've only fired a few rounds, but subsonic .22 LR out of my YHM 7.62 Stainless Phantom is as quiet as when fired through my SWR Spectre, EXCEPT for the first (and second) round pop, which is pretty bad.

    You might want to check out the Liberty Mystic, it's fully user serviceable and it'll also suppress your G17.
    The only downside is that it won't handle full bore .308 Win. It's OK for subsonic .308 and limited use with full power 5.56 and 7.62x39 though. It's a little heavier than most 9mm cans, but it's also a lot more versatile.

    I shot a Liberty Infiniti (a lighter weight version of the Mystic) and it seemed quieter than a 9mm Ti-Rant with both cans fired from a SIG P226 with Remington factory ammo.
     
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    I'm planning on getting a YHM Phantom .30 cal can so I can use it on my .308, AK, sbr ar15 and a .22 pistol, as well as anything else compatible I might pick up down the road. It's nice that YHM's QD muzzle brakes for 5.56 weapons will fit the .30 cal cans, so interchangeability between my rifles will be a snap.
     
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    While it's possible to fit the YHM 7.62 Stainless Phantom to a .22 pistol, it's not really practical. The .5"x28 threads of the 5.56 QD mount will fit the threads on my Browning Buckmark, but the combination of the mount/can weighs considerably more than the pistol and the combination has the handling characteristics of a bent up lead pipe full of wet sand.

    It's a combination that sounds kinda good in theory, but actually trying it one time will cure you of the desire to ever do it again. I was worried that the weight might break off the threaded portion of my TacSol barrel. I never actually fired it.
     
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    The YHM can is also not able to be disassembled to clean. One thing you really want, as already stated, when running .22.
     
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    Besides the take apart aspect, it's just not practical to hang a .30 centerfire rifle can off the end of a .22 rimfire.
     
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    .22LR suppressors are pretty cheap an much more effectice than a .30 can would be. Don't be so tight and bust out the extra $500 for a dedicated .22 can and stamp.
     
  16. MenaceMan47

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    You are probably right. That, and I didn't realize the YHM cans weren't user serviceable. I might have to start looking elsewhere for a user serviceable can, as I would prefer to clean it myself rather than have to send it back every few hundred rounds like Gemtech and other manufacturers require.
     
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    there's really no need for a user serviceable centerfire can like there is for a rimfire can, and the sealed cans are much stronger.
     
  18. Swampman

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    I'm not entirely certain, but I think you're trying to equate things that you've read about sealed rimfire cans with sealed centetfire cans.

    A welded can that is constructed of titanium, stainless steel and inconel doesn't need to be user servicable and won't have to be sent anywhere for cleaning. Assuming you take proper safety precautions and dispose of the waste properly, you can clean it yourself.

    Do a Google search for "the dip" relating to suppressors.

    In any case, "dipping" a .308 can will only be needed if you shoot a LOT of rimfire or cast bullets through it.
    When used with jacketed bullets and full power loads, you'll never have to clean it at all.
     
  19. mtrmn

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    just get a dedicated rimfire can which is user-serviceable for your rimfire stuff. Rimfire is all that you'll have to clean one for.
    Use your 30 cal can on all the centerfire rifles. No cleaning needed, and a sealed can will take all the pressure a lot better than a take-apart can. YHM is still a good choice.
     
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