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3006 or 7mm

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by appalachian hunter, Jun 20, 2013.

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  1. Kachok

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    Pushing a 150gr 06 over 3k is not nearly as hard as you think, it is called RL19. Just so happens that is also the most accurate load I have ever shot in my 06. At it's upper limits the 30-06 is a beast, too much so for deer hunting.
     
  2. MCgunner

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    Yeah, but the bullet weight in question was 165 grains and he is getting 3100 fps. But, the answer was in the barrel length. 26" is long for a .30-06. Most guns in .30-06 have 22" barrels, but Weatherby loves the longer barrel lengths. :D This explains it to me.

    Yes, some loads in .30-06 are too much for whitetails, especially Texas whitetails, but you don't have to push ANY cartridge to its limits. But, I know, for a guy like me that's always been about horsepower, that's hard to avoid. :D These higher velocity loads make more sense out in the open desert and the mountains, though. Still, I've taken whitetail past 300 yards with the lowly .257 Roberts. One does not need a cannon for deer, whitetail OR mule deer. I bought my 7 when I thought I was going to get an elk hunt. I felt the .257 a bit light for elk. I wound up shooting mulies and whitetails with the 7. Then, I won a .25-06 BDL in a gun show door prize raffle, traded it for my .308, and I've been a little infatuated with THAT gun since then.

    It don't have to be a cannon to hunt whitetail, but I guess the OP is lookin' at whatever he's going to run in to in north America. Either of these cannons can do the job in North America. I just really like 7mm bullets. BCs and SDs are excellent and they have a little more meat than the 6.5s which offer even better SDs and BCs. If I couldn't have found that M7 in .308 (which I wanted), I'd been perfectly happy with a 7-08, another fantastic cartridge that takes advantage of the 7mm bullet selection.

    Really, what it comes down to is personal preference. Either gun will do the same jobs. The 7 just gives me a bit more and, hell, I mean, you HAVE to own at least ONE belted magnum, right? :D
     
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    Yup, but kicking each other around respectfully seems to be what hunters do, seeking to challenge others' posts as to their authenticity, versus just hot-air posts. :) Besides, back when I was professional in Taekwondo, I got kicked around much worse. :D Sad part was I seemed to enjoy it, and kept going back for more, for years.

    Thanks for the reloading input on the 7mm Rem Mag.

    Geno
     
  4. Kachok

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    Yep the 7mm-08 is a fantastic little cartridge, much more pleasant to shoot then any 7mm Mag, don't have enough hunting experience with it yet to vouch for it as the ultamate deer hunting cartridge as some have done, but the ballistics are impressive for such a small cartridge, packs alot of punch for it's lack of real recoil, my A-Bolt synthetic weighs just over 6lbs and has a nothing of a recoil pad and it is very pleasant to shoot even at max loads, 120gr Pro Hunters at 2950fps (my most accurate load) have mild 243 level recoil.
    There are long barreled 30-06s that special edition Winchester 70 and the Ruger #1 both come to mind, I also like longer barrels to a point, I always have thought 24" barrels are superior to the 22" barrels for 30-06, 270 Win, 25-06, 280 ....etc. I think Kimber has it right 22" tubes on short action 308 family cartridges, 24" on 30-06 family cartridges and 26" on belted magnums, that makes alot of sense to me.
     
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    Look at the ammunition available on the shelves of a couple of country stores as part of your decision-making process.
     
  6. H&Hhunter

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    Lets keep it real folks.

    The 7 Rem Mag has been known to bounce off bunny rabbit skin. 8 out of every 10 people who shoot a 7 RM are kind of goofy looking. The "Best of the West" TV guy is a big 7RM fan and he wears lipstick and eyeliner on his show. What more do you need to know, really?

    Men and women who shoot the .30-06 are known for their good looks and athleticism. Many times when a game animal finds that the hunter pursuing them is carrying a .30-06 the animal surrenders, walks into camp where it skins and quarters itself. Carlos Hathcock, Ernest Hemingway, Theodore Roosevelt, Elmer Fud, Eric the Red, Gengis Khan and Conan the Barbarian all shot the .30-06.

    Real hunters, men among men and women among women, Romans and fellow countrymen shoot the and hunt with the .30-06. The .30-06 is the riflemen cartridge.

    The 7RM is the sensitive new age "special" cartridge of the gun world. And only goofy looking guys wearing lipstick tend to own and shoot them.

    The factual information above should settle this earth shatteringly important argument once and for all.

    Case closed.
     
  7. Art Eatman

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    A closing statement to be lauded for its extreme accuracy!
     
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