.32 acp

I had an NAA Guardian in 32 acp and another in 25 NAA. That was a bottleneck cartridge like the 357 Sig round but smaller. It was a 32 brass necked down to a 25 bullet. Possibly the most uncomfortable handgun that I have ever shot. Seriously !

For me, the KelTec p32 is more comfortable to shoot than the NAA Guardian in 32. Still the KelTec trigger guard slaps my trigger finger rather sharply.
 
As I see a lot of mentioning of .32 ACP on this forum recently I do have to ask myself at times what is it that I want from a .32 ACP pistol. .32 ACP is probably my least favorite of the .32 cartridge family, yet it's the only one that's prolific for semi autos. I have the Zastava and Beretta 81 and they're fine, but what I've wanted for a long time has been an LCP, but also a target oriented pistol that's affordable and available. If Ruger would take the Mark and bump up the size for .32 ACP, I'd pay $600 for one. If Phoenix Arms didn't go under, I would have loved for them to make a .32, even if it's 50% heavier than the .25, that's still worth the $200 it would probably cost.

There's a lot more .32's I would like, but none of them are what are typically available which is this retro classic type stuff like PPK's or 1903 Colt's. These all seem to be more for collecting and not shooting. If we want more people to get into .32 ACP, the PPK, Bersa Thunder, or Beretta 30x is not going to do it.
 
TTv2 said:
As I see a lot of mentioning of .32 ACP on this forum recently I do have to ask myself at times what is it that I want from a .32 ACP pistol. .32 ACP is probably my least favorite of the .32 cartridge family, yet it's the only one that's prolific for semi autos. I have the Zastava and Beretta 81 and they're fine, but what I've wanted for a long time has been an LCP, but also a target oriented pistol that's affordable and available. If Ruger would take the Mark and bump up the size for .32 ACP, I'd pay $600 for one. If Phoenix Arms didn't go under, I would have loved for them to make a .32, even if it's 50% heavier than the .25, that's still worth the $200 it would probably cost.

There's a lot more .32's I would like, but none of them are what are typically available which is this retro classic type stuff like PPK's or 1903 Colt's. These all seem to be more for collecting and not shooting. If we want more people to get into .32 ACP, the PPK, Bersa Thunder, or Beretta 30x is not going to do it.
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That was my issue with the 30 Super Carry, not such a bad idea but none of the guns appealed to me. I did own until recently the Shield Plus in 30 SC but sold it and the ammo.
 
TTv2 said:
As I see a lot of mentioning of .32 ACP on this forum recently I do have to ask myself at times what is it that I want from a .32 ACP pistol. .32 ACP is probably my least favorite of the .32 cartridge family, yet it's the only one that's prolific for semi autos. I have the Zastava and Beretta 81 and they're fine, but what I've wanted for a long time has been an LCP, but also a target oriented pistol that's affordable and available. If Ruger would take the Mark and bump up the size for .32 ACP, I'd pay $600 for one. If Phoenix Arms didn't go under, I would have loved for them to make a .32, even if it's 50% heavier than the .25, that's still worth the $200 it would probably cost.

There's a lot more .32's I would like, but none of them are what are typically available which is this retro classic type stuff like PPK's or 1903 Colt's. These all seem to be more for collecting and not shooting. If we want more people to get into .32 ACP, the PPK, Bersa Thunder, or Beretta 30x is not going to
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Ruger could call their 32 the LC Petite 😂
With their degree of fit and finish relative to KT, and if it ran as well as a P32, and had LCP II or Max size sights, I think it would be a good seller.👍🏻
 
While I like my new Colt 1903 and Seecamp. I am looking to add in a Keltec P32 which I would carry more often then the 2 I have
 
lincen said:
That was my issue with the 30 Super Carry, not such a bad idea but none of the guns appealed to me. I did own until recently the Shield Plus in 30 SC but sold it and the ammo.
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You can make the greatest caliber ever, but it doesn't mean jack if the gun sucks.

.30 Super does seem to be oddly accurate and it holds more rounds, but that doesn't automatically make it better than 9mm even if it was available in all the same pistols that 9 is.

.32 ACP, if it's not in the pistols I want, I can't warm to it. I got the Zastava because it was cheap and didn't have a .32, I got the Beretta because I knew it was good quality for the price and if I'm going to be stuck buying a straight blowback pistol, I'd rather have it in .32 than .380. Kel Tec is the only one who seems to make a locked breech .32, so at the larger size if a .380 is available in a locked breech, I'd rather get that and will be this Summer when I get the Ruger Security 380.

.30SC, .32 ACP, .380 ACP... IMO, .32 NAA is better than all of them and it is unfortunately pushing daisies because the industry is terrible at marketing actual improvements. The industry is so disingenuous that it only knows how to market something that isn't an improvement. It's like a used car salesman who only knows how to sell bad cars to people that he doesn't know how to sell a good one when he ends up with one on his lot.
 
halfmoonclip said:
Need to stop over on the Walther board, and see if everyone is still hot about the .32. It has been the choice of the cognoscenti for some long time, and the PPKs were especially hard to get.
The most common .32 had been police turn-ins, which were once virtually dirt cheap. They are up in the $5-600 range now, last time I saw one.
Thirty two PPKs are apparently common in Europe, but the .380s were judged better for the American market. Even the Interarms/Ranger guns, made here before the Smith & Walther debacle, were only occasionally offered in .32ACP.
Moon
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I have a Walther PP in 32 ACP. The dealer told me it was a police turn in. This was purchased in the early 80's.
 
I went around the Walther track twice with .380 and .22. I later saw a Swedish surplus .32 but manfully resisted the temptation. I know a guy who has one of those Irish surplus PP .22s and I don't know if I could hold back if he offered it for sale.
 
This Colt is around 105-115 years old and the barrel is shot out BUT it still functions. It is also slightly larger and heavier than my Astra .380. While I reload, I have enough problems reloading for .380, .38/.357, and .243 and don't value this gun enough to get another barrel or reload for it.

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Jim Watson said:
I know a guy who has one of those Irish surplus PP .22s and I don't know if I could hold back if he offered it for sale.
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Was that one for the Royal Ulster Constabulary? Always figured the Brits didn't trust the Irish with any bigger guns, less the IRA get hold of them.
JTHunter said:
and don't value this gun enough to get another barrel or reload for it.
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Did score another barrel for my '03, for not a whole lot of money. Found mine at a gunshow, but Numrich is apt to have them. Yours doesn't look too bad a sample.

CapnMac said:
Often, annoyingly, into 9x19 cases
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I've learned not to combine calibers in the tumbler. It seemed a good idea at the time... 🙄
Did find a trumpet-looking .32 case...maybe a range pickup, but it looks like somebody (it couldn't have been me...) managed to reload, and fire it, as a .380.
Moon
 
TTv2 said:
You can make the greatest caliber ever, but it doesn't mean jack if the gun sucks.

.30 Super does seem to be oddly accurate and it holds more rounds, but that doesn't automatically make it better than 9mm even if it was available in all the same pistols that 9 is.

.32 ACP, if it's not in the pistols I want, I can't warm to it. I got the Zastava because it was cheap and didn't have a .32, I got the Beretta because I knew it was good quality for the price and if I'm going to be stuck buying a straight blowback pistol, I'd rather have it in .32 than .380. Kel Tec is the only one who seems to make a locked breech .32, so at the larger size if a .380 is available in a locked breech, I'd rather get that and will be this Summer when I get the Ruger Security 380.

.30SC, .32 ACP, .380 ACP... IMO, .32 NAA is better than all of them and it is unfortunately pushing daisies because the industry is terrible at marketing actual improvements. The industry is so disingenuous that it only knows how to market something that isn't an improvement. It's like a used car salesman who only knows how to sell bad cars to people that he doesn't know how to sell a good one when he ends up with one on his lot.
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I could be wrong but remember reading the Security .380 is blowback. Major fail IMO if so.
 
KevininPa said:
I have a Saved Search on Gunbroker for .32 acp under pistols. Now granted, many of them don't get bid on. Mainly because they are older ones that don't fit our idea of grip comfort or aesthetics(sp) like the French Unique that looks like it can take a two-handed grip. Or popular models that grossly over priced. But decently priced military and police surplus always have bids. Beretta 80 series and the CZ82/83(my later years Grail gun) always sell. I was tracking a CZ that went from a penny start to $900! Girsan makes a tip up .32 acp. Importer won't bring it in afraid that it won't sell. With an aging populace, some with impending hand issues(myself), why aren't American manufacturers and importers picking up on this .32 Renaissance? Thanks for your time.
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Yes, definitely a .32 renaissance - but only minor. Not quite a surge.
 
jstert said:
i occasionally carried a naa guardian 32acp pistol. it is well made by an excellent maker, but not much fun to shoot. then i got a keltec p32, problem solved, carried alot.

did i read somewhere that ruger “borrowed” the keltec p32 design for its lcp? if so, ruger should at least offer the lcp in 32acp. a ruger sr22 is my favorite semiauto pistol of any caliber, one chambered in 32acp (sr32) would be super.

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At first glance, I saw Ruger.
 
MachewTexas said:
At first glance, I saw Ruger.
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Ruger marketing knows that the average Bubba knows bigger is better. So no .32s, but they make an LC9 compact 9mm.

SARCASM MODE ON - Only Nancy Boys and Euro-Centric wimps want .32s. Real Men want their hand to hurt when the gun goes off.
 
I have an LC9s and a P32. I had as soon shoot the 9 as the .32. More powerful, more accurate, and is enough to hold on to to control the recoil. Not that I shoot it or its companion Glock 43 much at one time. I use the Glock more because it is a GSSF match Division, but that is only 25 shots at the Indoor event.

As I and others have said, a SLIGHTLY bigger .32 would find a niche.
 
It is that, but it gives up a lot in accuracy vs a small .380 or 9mm.
Or are they putting conventional sights on the P32 now? Mine just has a paint spot in a hump fore and aft.

Get a look at a Glock 42, I see some excellent shooting done with them at GSSF.
 
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