32 H&R fans rejoice

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Buckeye63, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. EmeraldCoaster

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    Any gunsmith types know if there’s enough metal to work a CZ dovetail (front-to-back) for the front sight? I’ve seen it used on several reworked custom guns. Looks like one way to get the front sight lower. Of course getting CA to make the change would be the real challenge.
     
  2. Jim Watson

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    True, but if it doesn't shoot where it looks, you are not likely to shoot it enough to wear something out that would be replaced on warranty.
    I have seen pictures of old Smiths with a narrow groove cut across the hog wallow notch and a blade pressed or soldered in place. These days it would probably be glued.
     
  3. Biblethumpncop

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    That is not what they told me in an email. Oh well.
     
  4. Johnm1

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    I have no doubts you are accurate. I figured another confirming e-mail from them would settle my concerns so I followed up.

    The 32 Professional would be my perfect CCW but I can't possibly use it if the front sight is off so far. I practiced for 2500 rounds with my J Frame 38 before I would carry it and continued until around 7000 rounds before I felt really good about my shot placement. Not sure I didn't shoot the little thing out by then but it is what it is. In that group of 7000 practice rounds I engrained the front sight acquisition in my brain and I will not try to retrain myself to offset that sight picture. I'll just stay with my J frame.

    I really can't understand their resistance to fixing this thing correctly. It was such a good idea
     
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  5. TTv2

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    The reason for their resistance:

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  6. Johnm1

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    I get it. But that wad of 100 dollar bills will remain in my pocket and the gun will die a slow, profitless death.
     
  7. Ernie Bass

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    Just curious, what would be the benifits of the 32 S&WL?
     
  8. John_R

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    I got the first "Professional" I saw in the store. It's not bad, but I have some issues. Mine does shoot low, maybe 3" at 15 yards, more or less. The trigger is too heavy in my opinion. But the real issue I had was the forcing cone was contacting the cylinder face, causing the action to bind. I sent it in, and they said they fixed it and test fired it. I can see that they filed the forcing cone, but they did it at an angle. Now it shaves metal off the bullet which hits my hand when I fire. Sigh. I just put the thing in the safe and decided to mess with it some other time.
     
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  9. cfullgraf

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    32 S&WL wadcutters are fun to shoot and they group a bit better from a 32 S&WL chamber.
     
  10. Walkalong

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    Yep.
    Light Taper Crimp on a .32 Long WC - Berrys 83 Gr HBWC - Pic 1.JPG
     
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  11. TTv2

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    Yeah, as should all their new guns because after this Professional, I'm seriously skeptical of all their revolvers. Like, I've seen their .22's at gun shows and the crowns were drilled off center. I can't understand how that even leaves the building or how nobody in inspection catches that because I can't believe it was just one barrel that was like that, it had to have been a bad batch by somebody not paying attention (probably because they're on their cell phone) and not checking his work.
     
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  12. somethingbenign

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    Yeah this whole business of shooting low is turning me off of all their guns. I was looking at one of their 22 offerings as a kit gun but the only way I buy cheap is if the warranty work eh works. It wouldn't bother me if I had to send it back and waited 3-6 months but sending it back and them not fixing the problem... I'll shop elsewhere unfortunately.
     
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  13. OneFreeTexan

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    I have CA’s from all three iterations and all of them work just fine, shoot them a lot....guess
     
  14. Thomas Traddles

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    I have a 2.5 Bulldog and 2.2 Mag Pug. The Mag Pug is a shooter, the Bulldog is good, but the 240 grain RNFP over 6 grains of Unique punishes! I need to find a lighter load. Anyway, I am looking forward to the .357 Professional. I would like a 4 inch barrel, but will seriously consider the 3 incher.

    Since 2014, I bought an SP101, GP100, LCR, and 2 Ruger BHs. Each one had to go back to Ruger for service within 2 weeks of purchase. The LCR's crane and cylinder fell off after a round of shooting! The SP and GP went down the road because they were never fixed properly and I was tired of messing with Ruger's CS. The BH's and LCR remind me why I like Rugers. I am, however, hesitant to take a chance on Rugers now. My experience with CA has been very good. It saddens me to hear about the .327.
     
  15. TTv2

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    With their .22's tho the front sight is a ramp and can be filed down, the issue with the Professional is the front sight is fiber optic.
     
  16. lincen

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    Both Ruger and Charter Arms have excellent customer service, I have used them both. Ruger has always fixed the problem to my satisfaction but Charter Arms did not. That is why I took matters in my own hands and milled the top barrel rib on my CA Professional 32H&R. I would guess that I took about .060" or 1/16" off and re-installed the front sight. I can hit steel targets OK with it but it still shoots about 2 inches low to point of aim.

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  17. Mauser lover

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    How exactly is that front sight attached?
     
  18. TTv2

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    ^ Same question.

    BTW @lincen, you can mill more off to drop the sight more, just take it off directly in the area were the front sight is. You could mill a pocket another .04" deep and that should make it hit POA, but not make it look like a goody hackjob.
     
  19. Biblethumpncop

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    If you can mill a dovetail into it, put in a lower Novak front night sight. That would allow you to have windage adjustment and you can change the height of the front sight by swapping it out.
     
  20. Mauser lover

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    Anyone want to sell me a Professional for cheap? :D
     
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  21. lincen

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    After you remove the light tube you will see a very small allen head screw. Remove that screw, it is very short too. I think the may have used some type of glue or loctite to hold it in place. I think I used a smooth jaw set of pliers and broke the glue joint. I did have to drill the hole deeper and also tap it deeper.
     
  22. Mauser lover

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    Ah... so no dovetail needed...

    Checking gunbroker now...... Too soon. No used ones yet.

    It's an easy enough fix, you'd think Charter would be all over it.
     
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  23. Tallball

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    "After you remove the light tube you will see a very small allen head screw. Remove that screw, it is very short too. I think the may have used some type of glue or loctite to hold it in place. I think I used a smooth jaw set of pliers and broke the glue joint. I did have to drill the hole deeper and also tap it deeper."


    I have four CA revolvers and like them all. It is sad when we have to make posts like this. They should have made things right to keep their reputation clean. One person working full time for a while doubtless could have fixed all of those sights. It would have been well worth the cost. I will stick with my Undercoverette for the time being. Too bad for them, they could have sold me one and I would have made a positive post.
     
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  24. lincen

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    I certainly agree with you and know that Charter Arms is more than capable of making a revolver that can shoot to point of aim. I liked my Professional so much that after it came back from their “repair “ I decided to try and fix it myself. Very pleased with the gun now and also realize that it probably voided the warranty.
     
  25. TTv2

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    I can't imagine that they have made that many of them either, it's like maybe a week's worth of work for one person. If it's as simple as removing it sounds, I can't think of a reason they don't want to do it other than having to re-nitride the top of the barrel.

    I keep hearing that Charter wants to make an 8 shot .22 now, I wouldn't be surprised if they make it on the same frame as the Professional. Even if they don't and instead use the Bulldog frame, I'm not willing to give them my money, not when Taurus is already making an 8 shot .22 and will likely be offering it in an aluminum frame soon.

    This is going to sound petty, but I'm hopeful that Charter dorks up the .357 Professional just as badly because that's a popular caliber and I figure a lot of people are going to buy one, then find out it shoots as low as the .32 Professional does and Charter will be swarmed with repair calls and they'll either fix them right or they're gonna loss a huge amount of business in the future.

    Unfortunately, I get the feeling that Charter designed the barrel and the front sight height around .357, so the heavier bullets will shoot to POA, but the lighter ones (think 125 grain and less) will not.
     
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