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32 H&R Mag - dying ammo?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Fat Boy, Apr 30, 2009.

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  1. Fat Boy

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    I have an opportunity to buy a s&w lightweight revolver in 32 h&r mag - I understand this gun can shoot the 32 long as well as the mag round.

    I note in reviewing ammunition listings on Midwayusa.com a short list of makers for the magnum round, with a few more for the 32 long. (Just as a side note, maybe the sellers of ammo should put a link on their website titled "what is available at this time" - it would save paging through listings of "back-ordered: and "not available" etc...:)

    I like the size of this gun, the caliber, pretty much everything about it. I don't, however, want to end up with a nice paperweight somewhere down the road when this round disappears:cuss:

    I know I am trying to use a bit of a "crystal ball" approach, but I would like to hear what others more knowledgeable than I am think about this situation.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jim Watson

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    I don't think it will ever die completely out, but it might get uncommon on the shelves. A lot of low demand rounds are factory loaded on a seasonal basis once a year or even two. So keep enough on hand for your anticipated gunfighting schedule.

    You can always practice with .32 S&W Long, which seems here to stay. And, of course, a handloader need not run out of ammo. Revolver brass is good for dozens of loadings at moderate levels.
     
  3. Byron

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    I have always reloaded for mine. Factory ammo should be available after the hording crisis is over. Byron
     
  4. ArmedBear

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    Buy a revolver, buy a reloading press. Doesn't matter what caliber, right now.

    Even before the ammo bubble, I couldn't really enjoy shooting my .44, or even a .38/.357, with the cost of factory ammo.

    Revolver rounds are probably the easiest things to reload, and you don't even have to pick them up off the ground when you shoot.:)

    So, instead of searching for more ammo, I looked for deals on a reloading setup. It soon more than paid for itself.
     
  5. Furncliff

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    I believe this caliber is popular with many small frame shooters who shoot SASS and such. I know that many of them load their own, but it would seem some demand is there.
     
  6. sargenv

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    Starline Brass makes 32 H&R magnum for roughly $73/500. Hornady and Sierra make Jacketed bullets for the caliber and there are lots of cast bullet makers that also have a .312" bullet for the caliber. 500 pieces of revolver brass will last a long time. I've always liked the caliber.. I picked up a model 31-2 S&W in 32 S&W long for a fun plinker.. I have maybe 500 pieces of the brass and have loaded it a few times. It will likely last for a very long time.
     
  7. ArmedBear

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    Buy it.

    Then set yourself up to load your own. A complete Lee setup (with an O-frame press, not some pliers-like contraption) at Cabela's is $105 + a die set. You will break even when you've reloaded the equivalent of five boxes of ammo, and then you not only shoot for cheap, you also won't have to worry about what other people are shooting.

    ...and it turns out, reloading is fun, satisfying and educational. I have learned more about handguns in the past few months than I ever knew, even shooting black powder.
     
  8. mnrivrat

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    I wouldn't hesitate buying a .32 Mag. I suspect the loading will be around for a long long time.
    I have a Model 731 Titanium Taurus in .32 Mag. I am not concerned about ammo, but I do agree that when found, a small stockage is a good way to go, and hand loading even better.

    For plinking I use the .32 S&W long cartridge - been around about 100 years now and I don't see it going away soon.
     
  9. popeye
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    If it's a S&W 431/432 I think I'd pass unless it's a bargain. If it's a 631/632 they are quite collectible as is the 331/332. I've had a 432 and the QC was a real issue as was the IL. I sold it. I had a really nice 632 that someone offered a decent price for and I sold it also. S&W long is not a great SD round and although .32 magnum affords an additional round in a J FRAME, I've opted for .38 special because of all manner of loadings, it's a viable for SD, and it's usually available. I must admit I do still have a Taurus 731, but it'll probably leave soon.
     
  10. mnrivrat

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    I'm going to respectfuly counter this a little.. First is that although I agree the .32 S&W is a bit on the weak side for SD, we are talking about the .32 Magnum. That round not only gives one the 6th round, it gives ft Lb energy levels compatable to the standard .38 Spl. Few will argue that the standard .38 Spl rounds are a poor choice for SD, and yet for some reason, the .32 Mag falls below acceptable ?

    I'm going to give you why I think there is a place for the .32 Mag for SD. - It has significantly less recoil in a light weight revolver than the .38 Spl , and yet delivers near the same energy to the target.

    Now with that said , if you up the weight of the gun, then there is less reason to go with the .32 magnum. , therefore I would not pass on the S&W 431 or 631 guns in .32 mag as that is where the caliber choice makes the most sense.

    Now also with that said , I would recommend the .38 Spl over the .32 Mag if the person has no problem dealing with the extra recoil , or the extra weight of a heavier gun.

    The key issue is weight and recoil , and there are a lot of folks out there who talk about going to a .22 LR because their wife doesn't like weight or recoil in her SD gun - there is where the .32 Mag fits in my opinion. As well, there are older folk who have medical problems such as weak wrists, that make these guns a great choice for them.
     
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  11. peyton

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    I second what mnrivrat says, both my wife and daughter in law have arthitis, the 431 and 631 are easy for them to handle and fire. The recoil does not give them problems. I reload as well, plus you can find 32 ammo eventually. Now I will confess, I do shoot 32 acp out of mine as well. I know it is frowned upon, but it goes bang and hits paper well enough for me to train my grand kids proper techniques.
     
  12. Johnboy53

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    It can shoot 32 S&W, 32 Long and the mag. Everything from a fart to mean.
     
  13. Jon Coppenbarger

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    I have one I bought a few years ago and have yet to fire. It is a ruger single six. nickle with the white grips and ruger emblem, still new in the box. plan on shooting it someday.
     
  14. Dan-O

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    Or you can wait until Smitty makes a .327 mag j frame. I have heard rumors that it is in the works. That way you can shoot .327, .32 H&R, .32 Long, etc.

    I would also start reloading. Get yourself a Lyman reloaders manual for starters. There are lots of reloading websites, and usually forums like this have reloading sections where people are more than happy to answer questions. Good luck with your decision.
     
  15. .455_Hunter

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    The .32 Mag is not going anywhere.

    Ammo is not available right now due to the shortages in other calibers.

    If you were Federal, and have a 6 month backorder on .45 ACP, 9 mm, .38 Special, .380 ACP, .40 S&W, and .357 Mag, why would you worry about making any .32 Mag?

    It already does, but it is not a snub.

    Model 632 Carry Comp Pro Series - .327 Magnum

    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...d=10001&productId=86957&langId=-1&isFirearm=Y

    Maybe a 1 7/8" version will arrive soon...
     
  16. Capt Marvel

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    I love the .32 S&W LONG /New Police. It's hey day of popularity was in the pre-WW II period. Problem was all the top break el cheapo revolvers sold in that caliber. With many going back to the late 1800s. So ammo manufactures not wanting to be sued loaded the cartridge down. The .32 H&R Mag soled the problem bylengthening the cartridge case so as to not function in these old .32 S&W long.

    Well Colt and Smith & Wesson owners who hand load have been able to get these little pocket revolvers to do anything a .380 auto will with more versatility by rolling their own. My custom Colt Police Positive .32 New Police cylinder mics at 1.230 in length. So the .32 mag cases should chamber with room to spare. Thing here is overall cartridge length. But why not just load the .32 S&W Long case to low end .32mag loads for your S&W or Colt?

    I load .32 S&W Long cases with 2.7 grains of Bulleseye using both 100 grain wad cutter hollow base (loaded upside down) and .308 115 grain cast linotype as cast designed for .30 carbine. These rounds have a MV of 820 to 850 and produce about 150 ft/lbs energy.

    If I am looking for a gunfight I'll bring my 12 gauge mag pump!
     
  17. 71Commander

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    You can shoot 32 ACP ammo in it without a problem and that round isn't going anywhere.
     
  18. Dismantler

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    Personally, I'd get a .38. I avoid any of the second-tier cartridges and stick with the perrenial tried and true cartridges.

    We do not know what the future holds for guns and ammo. But if you need ammo in a pinch your friends and other contacts will be able to get you some .38 before they can .32.

    My dealer has an old Colt .32 snubby in his case...but he does not stock .32 revolver ammo...only .32 auto.

    Buy a .38.
     
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    The .32Mag is a great little round and I've never felt poorly armed when carrying it. I've got about a half dozen of them and are usually what I grab to go play with. As a reloader I could care less what's available in the store, but I do keep a few boxes of defensive ammo on hand and it's never been hard to find.

    The introduction of the .327 will help keep the H&R around for folks looking for a lower power option without going all the way down to the .32 Long. I'm here to tell you, a lot of folks who buy a .327 will be looking for a lighter load, it's no joke but still a lot of fun.
     
  20. LoneCoon

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    From what I've heard the .327 magnum will also shoot the .32 H&R magnum in pretty much the same size package.

    Also, .32 S&W and .32 Long, if I'm not completely off my mark here.
     
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    I wonder if the .327 Magnum is likely to make the .32 Magnum more popular rather than less popular. Many folks seem to like to shoot .38 Spec. in their .357 Magnum guns and only shoot .357 upon occasion or for carry/protection. The .32 Magnum round may end up as the .38 Spec. of the .327 Magnum cartridge.

    If the .327 Magnum lives up to its hype and becomes a common cartridge, the .32 Magnum may just see a resurgence. ;)
     
  22. Landric

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    To revive a thread:

    I think the main reason so much .38 Special is shot in .357 revolvers is ammunition cost. Yes, there are other reasons, but cost is a big deal.

    I would like to see more .32 H&R guns and brass available, but unless .32 Mag becomes cheaper and more available than .327 Fed Mag, I don't see the Fed Mag helping the H&R.

    I think the H&R is a fantastic cartridge, I haven't gotten to try the .327 yet.
     
  23. W.E.G.

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    Buy primers.
     
  24. Bill B.

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    Personally I think so......but the .32 S&W Long will be around for quite a while still. If you like the gun buy it!
     
  25. J Lazy H

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    If I'm not mistaking, .32 H&R Mag. cartridges can be used in .327 Magnum revolvers. Why not just buy any number of the 357 mags out there:confused: Pretty sure that ammo will be around for a while.
    Sorry:uhoh: that must have sounded kinda harsh. To me it falls into the 45gap and the 357 sig. area. :banghead:
     
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