.327 Federal.....

The Lipseys .327FM is a looker. Shortened under lug and blued. I got notified by Midway USA about two weeks ago that they had them in stock.

At the price difference between the blued and stainless I’d buy the blued all day long…never mind the fact I think it’s better looking.

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I’m somewhat sold on the 327. The Taurus in the top picture was DAO but I switched the hammer and trigger from the 2” model to get what I wanted.

The upper gun in the bottom picture is a 10mm but crowded it’s way into the family picture.

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WAIT ARE YOU SATING YOU CAN SWAP THE TRIGGER AND HAMMER OF THE TAURUS 2" 327 WITH THE TAURUS TORO 3" 327, THUS ENDING UP WITH A BOBBED HAMMER 2" SNUBBIE AND A 3" DA/SA CAPABLE OF TAKING RED DOT SIGHTS!?!?!?!
 
WAIT ARE YOU SATING YOU CAN SWAP THE TRIGGER AND HAMMER OF THE TAURUS 2" 327 WITH THE TAURUS TORO 3" 327, THUS ENDING UP WITH A BOBBED HAMMER 2" SNUBBIE AND A 3" DA/SA CAPABLE OF TAKING RED DOT SIGHTS!?!?!?!
That’s exactly what I did and both worked fine. I did check all dimensions with calipers and it was just a swap. I did leave the cylinder hand with their original frame. Both shot fine and the 2” DAO was later sold.
 
That’s exactly what I did and both worked fine. I did check all dimensions with calipers and it was just a swap. I did leave the cylinder hand with their original frame. Both shot fine and the 2” DAO was later sold.
That's awesome! I tried to do something similar but with swapping the hammer from the 2" barrel 327 with the a DAO hammer from the 3" barrel 905 Lipsey's exclusive and they were not compatible at all. Completely different striking ends of the hammer with completely different cut outs in the frame to accept the hammers.

Thanks for sharing your results. Now I know that I can get the DAO results I want by swapping parts with the 3" version.
 
Shouldn't carry full power 327 mag unless you have shot a few to get used to the recoil and flash. When I did, the folks around thought the gun blew up. The first time, I was surprised by the recoil and it was an ouch as my grip wasn't firm enough. That's in a SS 3 inch SW 632. Wouldn't want to shoot it in a lt. wt. J or LCR.
 
The OP isn't asking how .327 is from a rifle, he's asking how it is for a snub, so let's stay focused on that for his sake.

The reason .327 was made was to have an option in the caliber that was close to .357 from a short barrel, yet had less recoil and held 6 instead of 5. I've never shot a .357 from a snub or a similar weight as I have .327, but the .327 does have less recoil than .357 and .32 H&R has less than .38 and from a snub those are beneficial. Blast between .357 and .327 is the same: a lot. .32 Mag and .38+P, it's about the same.

Data has shown the .32's are capable, they pass FBI requirements, and in terms of ammo availability for short barrels for .32 H&R, .327, .38, .357... all are tough to get the right stuff for. Generic range ammo? Sure, .38 and .357 are more available, but prices for everything revolver have been high since Covid.

My focus for the OP is to inform him that the .327 has a quirk and it's that it shoots .32 H&R and .32 S&W Long slower than what a .32 H&R chambered revolver does. That's important because 50 to 60 FPS makes a difference when we're talking hollow point expansion bullet penetration.
The velocity loss is negligible when compared to the accuracy loss. My experience with revolvers, and 327 was absolutely no different, is that the amount of freebore in the cylinder is proportionate to the loss of accuracy. 327 down to 32mag isn’t a huge deal but it’s notable when shooting for tiny groups. 327 to 32 long is a bigger difference. 327 to 32sw more so and 327 to 32acp was pretty similar to 32sw but the case design played some tricks there that made it kinda funky, and I had to be very intentional about making sure I got the empties out or they tried to get under the ejector plate and cause issues.

Also did you actually read my post? I didn’t make a big deal of it being a rifle cartridge, I made it clear that it just sucks outright except for in a specific scenario where it is adequate when others still do better but adequate is adequate so it’s acceptable.
 
There’s more than a few .357 owners that will say the .327FM was an answer to a question that was never asked. That’s probably true for folks who ALREADY owned a 357.

However, if starting from scratch the .327FM should at least be considered. That doesn’t mean the shopper won’t end up with a .357 after careful consideration.

I’m an unabashed .327FM fanboy and I own my fair share of .357’s. Love em both.

I used to carry an 3.2 inch SP101 in .357. Still have it. Replaced it about a decade ago with an 3.2 inch SP101 in .327 FM. Wanted that sixth shot. Carry’s well but it’s a little chunky. Well, they both are actually. However, they conceal well. This .327FM is wearing pink grips as my wife liked them when she saw them and we plan to work up some light to heavy .32 H&R mag for her to shoot through it.

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Some months back I bought a lightly used 6 shot Taurus in .32 H&R mag. About a four inch barrel. Handling it there’s a quantum difference in perceived svelteness over the Sp101’s. I have faith the .32 H&R will get the job done if ever pressed into service for its intended purpose. I’m not hung up on the horse power difference between the FM and H&R. Until I owned the Taurus I wasn’t really feeling the need to go the H&R route. Full house .327 FM loads just don’t bother me. Granted, as stated in other posts, the muzzle blast, flash and sound signature is there in spades but can be mitigated somewhat with hand loads.

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The 7-shot GP100 was my first .327 FM. It’s my test bed for loads at the max end of things. I’ve never CC’d it. I know some folks here have said they carry a GP100 but for me it’s a tad on the large side. With a pic of the GP and a S7BH side by side. Note the thickness of the GP top strap compared compared to the S7BH

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Although this thread is focused on a carry gun for your son I’ll toss in the following just for FYI as they related to the caliber being discussed.

The Single Sevens are just all around great plinking and ranch/farm/hiking guns. Light and low recoil depending on what you have them loaded with.

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The Single Sixes in .32 H&R are absolute jewels and high up on my ideal ‘kit gun’ meter. In a pinch they could pull double duty as a CCW if working the hammer cowboy action style….trigger pulled back and held while hammer is cocked and dropped repeatedly.

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Reloading for both the FM and H&R is straightforward and relatively economical. Fair amount of data out there now vs. just a few years back. Brian Pearce articles are a must have on the topic for these calibers. Heaviest .327FM I’ve loaded are 130 grain cast lead. In my experience the heavier bullets are more accurate across the spectrum of powders I’ve experimented with.

Always makes me smile how flat the .327 FM shoots at extended distances of 50-100 yards.
I thought I had too many 32's....... Great collection and insight!
 
If loading to full pressure.327mag loads, be sure to use SMALL RIFLE PRIMERS !
I get primer extrusion with my Ruger Single-7 if I use SPP. Likewise with the .30SuperCarry.

My favorite powder is of #2400, but that comes in just above .32H&R performance. Accuracy is outstanding.
The best Jacketed bullet is the Hornady 100gr XTP. My current load is that with the max listed load of H110. It’s a powerful load chronographing in the high 1,500’s with my 5.5” barrel. Your 3.5”? Will loose perhaps 150fps.

I suggest before laying in a bunch of .327 brass that you get several hundred.32H&R cases for “mid range” loads. My favorite go-to load in the .327 and .32h&r is 4.5gr of LongShot under a 100gr cast semi-wadcutter (NOE .314 SWC-KT). I bought a 5-cav so I could feed the .327, .32h&h, and .30SC. Decent velocity (1,100fps @5.5”bbl) and remarkable accuracy.

THE “little” S&W Lady Smith’s also adore that bullet over 2.0-2.5gr of Bullseye!, though they usually get the Lee 93gr RN or Lee .312” 90gr SWC.
I also have a NOE 89gr WC,

LEE really needs to make a run of 6-cavity 100gr DEWC and 90gr SWC molds!
2 at a time doesn’t cut it!
 
LEE really needs to make a run of 6-cavity 100gr DEWC and 90gr SWC molds!
2 at a time doesn’t cut it!
No joke. I haven’t found a DEWC mold yet but I’m doing something very interesting to make .312 paint cans. The last run of scrap lead I got from RMR had a bunch of 115gr .320ish cores in it. I’m just sizing those and rolling with it. Works well enough.
 
Well, it arrived today.
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LIpsey"s special.
Ammo, and especially bullets for reloading aren't easy to find. I ordered dies and brass for it which should arrive Friday. The LGS had some Hornady xtp's so I
picked some up with the Ruger. Hopefully, soon I will get some loaded up and shot up.
Me likey!
And it’ll go with my other ones too….
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Well my son tried out his new Ruger LCR. Worked fine with Buffalo Bore .327 Mag 100gr jhp and 130gr hard cast. I believe he also had another loading of .327M. He also had a box of BB .32H&R Mag +P 100gr jhp. He shot 6 rounds and all stuck in the cylinder. He had to knock them out with a small screwdriver. Seems kinda odd. Do you think that box of ammo has a problem seeing all the .327 loads were fine? He said the chambers are clean and smooth. This is a new revolver.
 
Well my son tried out his new Ruger LCR. Worked fine with Buffalo Bore .327 Mag 100gr jhp and 130gr hard cast. I believe he also had another loading of .327M. He also had a box of BB .32H&R Mag +P 100gr jhp. He shot 6 rounds and all stuck in the cylinder. He had to knock them out with a small screwdriver. Seems kinda odd. Do you think that box of ammo has a problem seeing all the .327 loads were fine? He said the chambers are clean and smooth. This is a new revolver.
That seemed to be a problem for a YouTuber with that +p load in his LCR also, and with their 9mm in his Taurus revolver.

 
Well my son tried out his new Ruger LCR. Worked fine with Buffalo Bore .327 Mag 100gr jhp and 130gr hard cast. I believe he also had another loading of .327M. He also had a box of BB .32H&R Mag +P 100gr jhp. He shot 6 rounds and all stuck in the cylinder. He had to knock them out with a small screwdriver. Seems kinda odd. Do you think that box of ammo has a problem seeing all the .327 loads were fine? He said the chambers are clean and smooth. This is a new revolver.
BB ammo runs on the razors edge pressure-wise to get the high velocity-energy numbers they want. I would not be surprised if the cases stick when fired with many of the BB loads. If the chambers are on the smaller side of SAAMI specs, or are a bit rough inside, case sticking may be a perennial issue with heavy .32 loads.

I will get flat primers with a max charge of Unique under 100-120 gr LRNFP bullets in .32 H&R cases, but they extract from my SP .327 just fine.

My Single Six .32 H&R seems to have a longer than normal firing pin, as I got several pierced primers with the first loads I developed. Since then I use SRP in all of my .32 loads, and the primer piercing has stopped. 😀

Stay safe.
 
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