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$330 billion psychiatric industry

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  1. gym

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    100 MILLION PEOPLE WORLD-WIDE ARE NOW ON THESE DRUGS
    The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UDlH9sV0lHU <-------------watch this



    This is very interesting. It's a HUGE list of school shootings in the U.S. Click on any particular "School Shooting" to see the source and it's link. It's remarkable how many young people are on these psychotropic drugs. It's like "Mind Candy" but with disastrous results.


    It's a little easier to understand when you can see it in a list......Rx drugs..... are the real problem

    What
    Drug
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    School Shooting
    Prozac WITHDRAWAL 2008-02-15 Illinois ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
    School Shooting
    Prozac Antidepressant 2005-03-24 Minnesota **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
    School Shooting
    Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2001-03-10 Pennsylvania **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
    School Shooting
    Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med 2011-07-11 Alabama **14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
    School Shooting
    Zoloft Antidepressant 1995-10-12 South Carolina **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
    School Shooting
    Med For Depression 2009-03-13 Germany **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
    School Hostage Situation
    Med For Depression 2010-12-15 France **17 Year Old with Sword Holds 20 Children & Teacher Hostage
    School Shooting Plot
    Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL 2008-08-28 Texas **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
    School Shooting
    Anafranil Antidepressant 1988-05-20 Illinois **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self
    School Shooting
    Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants 1999-04-20 Colorado **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
    School Stabbings
    Antidepressants 2001-06-09 Japan **Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
    School Shooting
    Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 1998-05-21 Oregon **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
    School Stabbing
    Med For Depression 2011-10-25 Washington **Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
    School Shooting
    Antidepressant 2006-09-30 Colorado **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
    School Machete Attack
    Med for Depression 2001-09-26 Pennsylvania **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
    School Shooting Related
    Luvox 1993-07-23 Florida **Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
    School Hostage Situation
    Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2009-11-09 New York **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage
    School Shooting
    Antidepressants 1992-09-20 Texas **Man, Angry Over Daughter's Report Card, Shoots 14 Rounds inside Elementary School
    School Shooting
    SSRI 2010-02-19 Finland **On Sept. 23, 2008 a Finnish Student Shot & Killed 9 Students Before Killing Himself
    School Shooting Threat
    Med for Depression* 2004-10-19 New Jersey **Over-Medicated Teen Brings Loaded Handguns to School
    School Shooting
    Antidepressant? 2007-04-18 Virginia **Possible SSRI Use: 33 Dead at Virginia Tech
    School Shooting
    Antidepressant? 2002-01-17 Virginia **Possible SSRI Withdrawal Mania: 3 Dead at Law School
    School Incident/Bizarre
    Zoloft* 2010-08-22 Australia **School Counselor Exhibits Bizarre Behavior: Became Manic On Zoloft
    School/Assault
    Antidepressant 2009-11-04 California **School Custodian Assaults Student & Principal: Had Manic Reaction From Depression Med
    School Shooting
    Prozac Antidepressant 1992-01-30 Michigan **School Teacher Shoots & Kills His Superintendent at School
    School Shooting Threats
    Celexa Antidepressant 2010-01-25 Virginia **Senior in High School Theatens to Kill 4 Classmates: Facebook Involved: Bail Denied
    School Violence/Murder
    Antidepressants* 1998-05-04 New York **Sheriff's Deputy Shoots his Wife in an Elementary School
    School Knifing/Murder
    Meds For Depression & ADHD 2010-04-28 Massachusetts **Sixteen Year Old Kills 15 Year Old in High School Bathroom in Sept. 2009
    School Stabbing
    Wellbutrin 2006-12-04 Indiana **Stabbing by 17 Year Old At High School: Charged with Attempted Murder
    School Threat
    Antidepressants 2007-04-23 Mississippi **Student Arrested for Making School Threat Over Internet
    School Suspension
    Lexapro Antidepressant 2007-07-28 Arkansas **Student Has 11 Incidents with Police During his 16 Months on Lexapro
    School Shooting
    Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2007-11-07 Finland **Student Kills 8: Wounds 10: Kills Self: High School in Finland
    School Shooting
    Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant 2004-02-09 New York **Student Shoots Teacher in Leg at School
    School Threat
    Prozac Antidepressant 2008-01-25 Washington **Student Takes Loaded Shotgun & 3 Rifles to School Parking Lot: Plans Suicide
    School Shooting Plot
    Med For Depression 1998-12-01 Wisconsin **Teen Accused of Plotting to Gun Down Students at School
    School/Assault
    Zoloft Antidepressant 2006-02-15 Tennessee **Teen Attacks Teacher at School
    School Shooting Threat
    Antidepressant 1999-04-16 Idaho **Teen Fires Gun in School
    School Hostage Situation
    Paxil & Effexor Antidepressants 2001-04-15 Washington **Teen Holds Classmates Hostage with a Gun
    School Hostage Situation
    Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL 2006-11-28 North Carolina **Teen Holds Teacher & Student Hostage with Gun
    School Knife Attack
    Med for Depression 2006-12-06 Indiana **Teen Knife Attacks Fellow Student
    School Massacre Plot
    Prozac Withdrawal
    On the email I recieved, you are able to click on each incident, and get the original story that went along with it, they are all legit.
     
  2. BLB68

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    The video lists Ultram/Tramadol as a psychotropic drug in its summary info. It's an artificial opioid, a pain killer. If they can't get that little bit straight, I have to question the rest of their information.
     
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    I'm no fan of psychs or pills. It's a good idea to avoid both. But evidence that the spree killers were almost all insane doesn't mean the psych meds made them that way or drove them to kill. Without something showing a clear link to a specific med, the pills are more likely to be evidence of underlying mental problems not really a cause of them.
     
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    correlation does not equal causation.
     
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    Just curious, but how much do you know about psychology, psychiatry, or drugs, gym? This is a very complicated issue that one youtube video cannot do justice to.
     
  7. Alaska444

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    Actually, Ultram does have potential side effects that you must be careful with. I have prescribed Ultram to dozens if not hundreds of patients, and you do need to observe for potential serotonin induced side effects:

    http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-11276-Ultram+Oral.aspx?drugid=11276&drugname=Ultram+Oral
     
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    Perhaps the folks on these meds had a psychological condition requiring "treatment." Psychiatry is a very subjective and theoretical "science" with many opposing views on optimal treatments. The fact that they were all on meds may simply indicate their level of mental illness.
     
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    Its still a better direction than where the msm is taking it ' Just having guns made them do it'
     
  10. gym

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    Exactlly, it ties the mental illness into the hanus acts, rather than guns. Concerning psycology, psyciatry, and drugs, I know quite a bit. Having a step daughter who is a shrink, and having been disabled, since 99, and told that all people in pain automaticlly should be on anti depressants, after 6 months. When I asked why, she told me it was a natural thing to become depressed when you suffer an injury, so she sent me home with a few hundred pills, which I threw in the trash.
    I found that exercise of any type is far better than the side effects of these drugs that are dispensed to everyone who complains about anything.
    This goes right back to our education system where half the kids who misbehave are said to have adhd. when realy all they need is an hour a day of exercise.
    My aunts all in their 90's now, 1, just passed, at 95 , 4 more from 89-99, have all been loaded up with these meds, by doctors who never even looked at their history. I took one off the stuff she was getting from 5 different doctors, and she slept for the first time in years.
    This countyrs health care system has more than most folks think, to do with what we are seeing now with violence in general.
     
  11. TennJed

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    No offense to anyone here, but a bunch of people crying foul in medical prescription practices is pretty close to a bunch of anti with no gun experience demanding change in gun laws.

    Most of us here are not qualified to make educated comments on this subject. Remember that when you complain that someone than knows nothing about guns calls for change in our community, what's good for the goose is.............
     
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    I don't know. Sure, we're not doctors, but I don't think this is stretching reality, to interpolate that side effect printed on the drug fact sheets might actually be aggravating underlying conditions or causing people to tweak out and do violent things. If you look at the warnings for side effects from pretty much all of the psych drugs, they warn of violent behavior and risk of suicide, amongst other things. They may have an underlying condition, but you wouldn't get warned that it might get worse if it wasn't a result of the drug. If they have to print this stuff on the label, it's not because it might happen, it's because it has happened to various people taking said drug.
     
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    I think its interesting that just about every commercial for these antidepresents say, "If you have thoughts of suicide see you doctor." This means that they do see these thoughts as a side effect. Kinda odd that almost no one is calling for a congressional investigation.
     
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    I sit corrected. It still seems odd to list it with a bunch of psychoactive drugs intended to treat psychological problems.

    I've got a bottle sitting on my desk, prescribed for pain. Gives me a couple of negative side effects. I can't seem to tolerate it or Vicodin.
     
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