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.35 Rem. Most hard hitting ammo available?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by danweasel, Mar 23, 2009.

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  1. danweasel

    danweasel Member

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    Hi guys,

    I just was informed that I am going to be getting a .35 levergun (not sure what model or MFG) from my Father in Law. He says that he used to use it for his anti dangerous animal rifle. Of course, he is in California so the animals are smaller. What would be the hardest hitting ammo I could put in this thing? I have never owned a lever action before so I am pretty stoked. Also, would this be a good BEAR GUN? Hahahahaha. But seriously I carry a 12Ga right now for my woods gun and I might start carrying this instead. Dumb?

    Thanks in advance,

    Dan
     
  2. NCsmitty

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    35 Remington

    Without a doubt, the Hornady LeveRevolution round is the most potent.
    200 gr bullet at 2225fps out of a 24" barrel and about 2160fps out of a 20" barrel. It will work great for deer and black bear.
    Regular Rem 200gr ammo is around 2000+fps.

    NCsmitty
     
  3. tango2echo

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    Good for bear. Keep shots under 100 yards. The Hornady ammo is top notch. IME it is as fast or faster than advertised.

    T2E
     
  4. woof

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    Black bear yes, bigger not so much. The .35 Rem is a great round but I'd want more against an angry griz.
     
  5. Palo

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    +1 for the Hornady LeveRevolution round being the most potent.
     
  6. ArmedBear

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    LE ammo is also very accurate. I was shooting at a rifle range with a guy who was trying the stuff out for the first time, in his .35 Rem Marlin 336. He was amazed at the groups it shot, and so was I.

    WRT Griz, the only Grizzly left in California is on the flag. They killed 'em all a long time ago.

    Strangely, the California treehuggers haven't decided to import a bunch of grizzlies to the San Fernando Valley, but they have no problem shipping Canadian wolves to us here in Idaho. We actually had wolves before they imported the Canadian ones -- which killed our natives. The grizzly, OTOH, is a natural inhabitant of California and was wiped out. Makes more sense to ship some into California than it did to ship the wolves here. I wonder how to lobby for that...
     
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    I,m not sure you can get it anymore but I have some old Winchester Silvertip ammo that does the job on game.
     
  8. jim in Anchorage

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    Armedbear,you would NOT be happy if fish and game does a grizzly bear"reintroduction"in ID. they eat calves in the spring like candy,so get used to your hunting areas showing up "closed" or "drawing permit required"
     
  9. saturno_v

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    The hardest 35 Rem. ammo, as far as I know, is from Buffalo Bore.

    Their Heavy 35 Remington (220 gr. Jacketed Flat Nose) develops 2364 ft/lb from a 20" carbine barrel...it seems like a good thumper at short distances.

    Link:

    http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=166


    An Alaska fisherman that I personally know, did put down a big coastal grizzly with 2 or 3 shots with a 35 during a charge and he's got pics to prove it....seems adequate to me...definitely not the first choice but if you do your part and put that bullet (which must be a well constructed one, preferably a hard cast slug) where it should go, the round will take care of business....shot placement above all...

    Of course someone sooner or later will tell you that the 35 Remington is barely sufficient for deer...your know....
     
  10. shoey

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    Congrats on the acquisition!

    I dont have one, but as far as the LeverEvolution ammo goes, its a nice round in 45 LC. Dont have any on game results though...no luck this year...
     
  11. Hoppy590

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    .35 rem is a laughable solution for Alaska. scale it up to .450 marlin
     
  12. Gordon

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    A .35 Rem, even with the the good old reliable 200 Grain Corelokt'd ammo will kill ANYTHING, including 1000 pound bears within 100 yards IF the bullet is properly placed. I've shot the big brown ones with a .338mag and a .375 H&H and watched locals use a .35rem a little closer than I did with about as good results. But who wants to hear the truth these days?;)
     
  13. Hoppy590

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    im sure .38 special will kill anything with good shot placement.

    but if i lived in Alaska and was being chased by a griz , i want to make as large a hole, as deep as possible, as many times as i can.
     
  14. saturno_v

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    Sorry but that is a truly laughable comparison..

    A 35 Remington is an over 2000 ft/lb ME cartridge with higher sectional density than the ~200 ft/lb 38 Special....one order of magnitude less powerful...a 38 Special would very likely fail to penetrate enough.

    Everytime some may point that a circa 2K ft/lb cartridge can be adequate against dangerous animals at very close range, someone will bring in the equation the typical peashooter, a 22 LR, a 38 Special, 32 ACP, etc....it never fails....
     
  15. Hoppy590

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    you didnt bother reading the last 2 responses did you ?

    even if .35 was a good round for alaska, you could tell you you know hunters who killed Sasquatch with a .50BMG and id still want a .60.
     
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    I just read the "38 Special will kill anything" statement...
     
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    it was meant to mimic those " well my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate killed a charging grizzly with a .22 SHORT rifle." post im sure we will see.

    im not a big game expert, but i believe the general idea in big beast defense is big enough holes, deap enough, and enough of them...

    for this reason id suggest a .450 marlin lever gun or a hot loaded .45-70
     
  18. maskedman504

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    Congrats on never once attempting to answer the OP, you sir bring nothing to the table! He is getting a hand me down from his father in law. He is not buying a new rifle and debating the caliber- he wants to know the most effective round for his chambering.

    Op, I would suggest the Buffalo Bore ammunition and a thick butt pad for the rifle!
     
  19. Hoppy590

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    maskedman504

    ask wahts the best flavor of crap, don't be surprised if some one offers vanilla iced cream instead
     
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    Because a .350 Rem Levergun as a gift from a relative is crap. Right.

    So your suggestion is to refuse the rifle on grounds of inadequacy. Thanks for your opinion.

    Edit: I mis-typed .350 Rem; I was not trying to refer to the magnum cartridge. After re-reading my previous posts, I believe I was being passive-aggressive and detracting from this thread. I appologize for that.
     
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  21. Hoppy590

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    um he didnt say .350 rem (mag) he said .35rem

    learn your rounds and THEN try to talk a tough game to me.
     
  22. maskedman504

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    Contribute.
     
  23. Hoppy590

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    NVM holding for specifics


    EDIT: after conversing with maskedman504 via PM he seem pretty confident i am wrong. if i had 2/3's the memory i think i do, he had orignaly said

    now we all know THR ist always up on the "last edited" time line. anyway i am preparing an argument against .35 rem
     
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    I live out on the AK PEN. That .35 Rem. is plenty for what you want to use it for.

    Ammo? Two words: Buffalo Bore.
     
  25. Hoppy590

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    first id like to call to attention
    the argument stating

    how ever the thread author asks

    i feel i am with in my right to argue against the .35rem at this point. the .35 rem offers ballistics at or below the 30-30 round
    .30-30 Win. (150 FP) 2390 1605 1902 858
    .30-30 Win. (170 FP) 2200 1619 1827 989

    vs
    .35 Rem. (200 RN) 2080 1376 1921 841
    all data from http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_ballistics_table.htm

    i cannot believe anyone who lives/hunts in Alaska who who'd advice a .30-30 as a good woods gun. ( assuming woods guns means a defensive gun against bear, bull moose or other threats int he wood)

    the ballistics just dont add up.

    now i am ignoring the little discrepancy in individual post edits. such as where some one MAY have said .350 Rem ( i assume mag) instead of .35 rem ( two DRASTICALLY different rounds)

    where as .350 rem mag puts out

    .350 Rem. Mag. (200 Sp) 2775 2186 3419 2122
    again from http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_ballistics_table.htm


    it presents a much more reasonable round

    and a good round when compared to my suggestion of .450 marlin


    450 Marlin (350 FP) 2100 1397 3427 1516
    again from http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_ballistics_table.htm

    these numbers begin to seem more Alaskan bush to me

    well even though i cant prove the mention of the .350 rem mag, as its since been edited, id like to see some one whos hunter advice a round thats UNDER 30-30 for carrying around in the woods ( assumedly for Self defense) as the OP states in the OT


     
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