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357/38 cal hp mould reccomendations??

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  1. Sneakshot92

    Sneakshot92 Member

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    Hi all. I'm looking for advice on a good hollowpoint cast boolit type/mould to use in my 357s for small game hunting (coyote & fox).
    I've already got a lyman mould (#358429) on the shelf for the bigger stuff.
    If anyone is interested i'll be loading these over a moderate charge of Unique.

    Thanks in advance!!
     
  2. Armored farmer

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    You're reading my mind today.
    I want one of those too.
    I bought 100 140gr hp from Zero bullet co. Now I gotta make my own.
     
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    I got mine from RCBS, it works great..
     
  6. Texas10mm

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    You got a HOLLOW POINT mold from RCBS?

    Could you post a picture of it please.
     
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    I just moved and I haven’t moved all my stuff yet, when I do, I’ll send a pic

    Dan
     
  8. KY DAN

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    Lyman 358156 hp mold all day. It uses a gas check but one may leave it off for 38 split loading. Its accurate and tested by time.

    I also have a extra like new one with handles $150 plus shipping would buy.
     
  9. Sneakshot92

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    Tempting.. But i'm after a hollow point mould.
     
  10. LUCKYDAWG13

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    20180305_170420_resized.jpg What a MP mold looks like this is for a 44 magnum 20180814_173348_resized.jpg
     
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  11. KY DAN

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    The 358156 is made in a solid and a hollow point. I have the hollow point version that's why I said 358156 hp.
     
  12. forrest r

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    I would highly recommend a forester hp tool over a hp mold. The difference is it's easier to control the size and depth of the hp itself. With a hp mold you're locked into the shape/size/depth of the hp and have to work the alloy around the design for the velocity of that hp design/bullet design.

    Not all hp's are created equal nor are al the bullet designs created equal. Some of the different "keith" style hp molds out ther.
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    lyman 358477 with the standard .125" hp pin that has a short rounded tip
    The #26 is a cramer that has a tapered hp (.125" to a point) and a large bottom drive band/bullet base (excellent velocitys)
    The #51 is a h&g with the standard .125" hp pin with rounded point
    lyman 358439 is the hp version of the 358429 with the standard.125" hp pin with the rounded point

    More hp's for the 38spl/357's:
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    The top right bullet is a special order lyman 358156. Instead of the standard order .125" pin it uses a .140" pin that is the standard 44/45 cal hp pins in the lyman molds. The bottom center bullet is an extremely rare cramer "hunter" bullet. Note the small hp hole. The hp pin in that bullet mold starts out 3/32" and tapers to a point.

    Typically the higher the velocity the smaller the hp is with cast bullets. Same bullet mold with 3 different hp pins.
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    This is why the forester hp tool is superior to a hp mold. You can make different size hp holes in any cast bullet along with how deep the hp goes into the bullets nose. Typical hp pins in molds are designed to have the hp extend down to the top drive band. With the forester tool you control the depth of the hp making anything from a cupped hp to a huge hp that goes 2/3 the length of the bullet.

    Just something to think about:
    1 hp mold/1 bullet design/1 hp design VS 1 tool that is capable of putting hp's/multiple hp designs in any cast bullet or altering /making hp's in jacketed bullets.
     
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  13. Sneakshot92

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    Ahh. Guess I learned something new.
     
  14. BWS

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    I was too cheap to buy the Forster jig/fixture and made my own. But forrest r hits on pretty much all the reasons in the post above.

    One of my favorite drive pins,after an initial hole is a torx driver bit. Just a lot of fun playing with different configurations.
     
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    NOE clone of the Lyman /Ideal Ray Thompson designed double crimp groove 358156 mold. Mine comes with two sets of pins, one for casting HP's the other set for casting flat nose bullets.

    Bullet on the right loaded at 38+P pressure/ velocity was recovered for wet pack media, no gas check needed for these load.
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    Can be loaded long in the second crimp groove in 38 Special cases to light to med. 357 mag loads.
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  16. cfullgraf

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    I have a couple hollow point MP moulds. They come with two different shaped hollow point pins plus a plug for molding solid bullets.
     
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