357 carbines and rifles?

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  1. trekker73

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    Anyone else own one, what do you use it for and how well does it shoot?
     
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    I have a Browning, made by Miroku, design copy of the Winchester 1892, a relatively recent addition. Until it is function-tested, someday, perhaps post-pandemic, it is a home decoration. I hope that it will be a 50-state-legal utility/defensive weapon, able to share ammo with my defensive .357 revolvers.

    My wife has a stainless Marlin, which I gave her, to replace her problematic Rossi. She has not complained about the Marlin’s accuracy.
     
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    Winchester 94 AE here. I keep it with me and my Ruger Blackhawk when doing chores around the mountain property. They work well hand in hand. Fun to plink with as well.
     
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    Wife has a Marlin that is pre Remington ownership. Started as mine which lasted until she shot it the first time. Now "she" has a riflefor the pistol cartridge only area instead of her shotgun.

    Any way it shoots quite well. Remington factory 158 357 groups just under 2 inches at 100 yards. Velocity is about 1900fps. Hornady 158 xtp group about the same and are around 1800 fps. This is over a not quite max charge of 296.Forget factory 38 specials unless jacketed bullets. Many will not feed and the accuracy is pretty bad. Leading is severe with any tried. Some seem to actually strip in the rifling. Hard cast , loaded 1200 to 1500 fps, are great fun.

    Not sure about using the factory ammo for deer. The xtp looks like it would do very well. It is designed for the impact velocity generated
     
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  5. FL-NC

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    I HAD a Marlin lever 357 in the 90's, when they were more available and priced around $300. It was fun to shoot, but not especially useful for hunting or HD (I had other better rifles at the time for this) so it went away. I do miss it sometimes though.
     
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  6. Spade5

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    Henry Big Boy .357 Magnum here. I have wanted one for years and just found a 2015 model that has never been fired and still hasn't so I cannot speak of how well it shoots. I know a lot of people don't like the Henry loading tube but I imagine after ripping off 10 rounds, I might want to pause and load 10 more. My companion pistols if you will are S&W 686 six inch from 1985 or so and a 686+ 3 inch.

    I reload so once things settle down a bit, I am going to try to find a load that works in all three. I do not hunt so my purpose is range fun and possible home defense. I like plated bullets so I need to keep the Berry's under 1,500 fps.

    I don't think it matters which brand or style you pick and I bump into people from time to time who own Winchester, Marlin, Rossi, Uberti and Henry but that is too rich for my blood. They seem to have one thing they really like about each one and one thing they would or have changed. I guess the quest for the perfect lever rifle goes on.
     
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    I have the Henry single shot with a 2.5x "shotgun" scope. I use it primarily as a target shooting arm to introduce young/new shooters to centerfire rifles and as a fun curiosity at my hunting camp. It was used by a youth hunter last year but she was unsuccessful so can't comment on deer effectiveness. It is accurate with a wide range of ammunition from subsonic cast .38s to full house 158 JSP .357 mag. Recoil is minimal with full power, near nonexistent with .38 spl.

    We play birch golf with it at camp. 3-5 small birch logs are placed at various ranges and covers to 100+ yards. A stroke is charged for every shot until they are knocked over, the first 2 shots are free leading to some birdies and eagles with a clean run. Each shooter runs his "hole" in turn with the same settings. The ammo is low-vel cast 158s, and all shots are offhand. Each shooter gets to set up at least one "hole," making for some interesting courses of fire. Past 75 yards, some significant Kentucky comes into play, making it a very challenging game. Cheap and loads of fun to shoot.
     
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  8. Pat Riot
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    I have a Marlin 1894CB (Cowboy) .357 Magnum / .38 Special . I bought it in 2019. It seems to be a gun that Remington / Marlin finally got their act together on, for the most part. It still has a sharp edge just inside the side loading gate that I need to buff - very minor issue.
    I have put about 700 rounds through this gun. It is accurate and VERY reliable. I have fired .357 and .38 Special rounds through it with zero malfunctions. I have fired RNFP, round nose, conical hollow points and a few semi-wadcutters through it without issue.
    I bought it to shoot Cowboy Action and it has been a very nice rifle. It is also a fun plinker and a great sidekick for my .357 revolvers.

    I also have a Winchester 94 Trails End .357 that I bought back in 1998. This is the most accurate pistol caliber long gun I have ever fired. It was my first “Cowboy Action” gun. This gun is a .357 Magnum ONLY gun. It does not consistently reliably feed .38 Special especially when shooting fast. All Winchester 94 .357’s have this problem. Those that don’t will.
    I have put thousands of rounds through this gun. I have replaced the link 3 times (the little nipple wears and disrupts feeding). I have replaced other parts as well.
    I no longer use this gun in matches. It is purely a fun gun now and it’s the one I bring out for accuracy competition at CAS matches, on the rare occasion there’s a side match.

    Honestly, I would consider a “new” Marlin 1894. By new I mean one made in the last couple of years. Once manufacturing moved to Ilion NY in 2010 Marlin 1894s were very poorly made up until around 2017. Lots of QA issues but it seems they have worked out their manufacturing bugs.
    One nice thing about the Marlin. It is labeled as a “.357 Magnum / .38 Special” gun right on the barrel. It’s not a .357 that also shoots.38s. It is made to shoot both and does so very well.

    One more thing. Lots of folks seem to like Rossi 92s. I personally think they are junk. But, I have only owned one but worked on a couple. The first time I looked inside the one that I bought I truly thought that the insides of a poorly made Chinese SKS looked better. It seemed like I was always having to fix, adjust, modify or replace something in that gun. If you are a tinkerer or your goal in life is to have something that always needs attention of some kind, then a Rossi might be worth a look. Like I said, lots of people like them. I do not.

    Good luck in your quest. :)
     
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    I have a Rossi M92 that is nothing but fun.
     
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  10. Armored farmer

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    Mine is an older marlin 1894c. It is a great companion to my .357 revolvers. It was my go-to farm gun until I got a scoped AR for that role.
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    Winchester 94 Trapper here... Just a fun gun, though I figure she can hunt or defend in a pinch. :)

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    Rossi 92 20" barrel. I put a Williams FP peep sight on it.
    You can't get me to get rid of this gun.
     
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    Ruger 77/357. (w/ tip-off aperture sight)

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    Camp/woods carbine - that also does HD duty.

    Initially got it as a companion to my Ruger Blackhawk 6.5" .357 mag..

    But, in practice, they have a similar philosophy of use, so generally take one or the other, and offset each w/ a .22 LR pistol or carbine, respectively.

    And it sits loaded in the corner, both camp and home.


    How it shoots, w/ 158 gr. Federal American Eagle JSP or Hornady Custom XTP-HP, is ~ +/- 2MOA from field positions.

    Has hardly any recoil or report.

    It is light enough to carry all day in the field (5.5 lbs), and is heavy enough to take deer and hogs at reasonable ranges.


    Camp Genie.




    GR
     
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    I have pre-remington , Marlin1894C (2003) .357 mag. I have killed 2 deer with Hornady XPT reloads, they dropped right were they stood. Nice carbine, accurate ,fun to shoot , no problems with it.
     
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    What I like about the .357 mag Carbine is:

    If you put a 158 gr. Federal AE JSP into a rabbit - it will punch a .35 cal hole through it much like an expanding .22 LR 36 gr. HP from a carbine.

    Put the same round into a deer or hog at reasonable range - and it will set up and still penetrate 18+ inches.




    GR
     
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    Mine has a 2x Aimpoint. 357/20 gauge. Bought it for deer in the thick stuff but it is fun to shoot. Seems to like the Leverevolution loads.

    Ironhand
     
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    It's possibly the most fun fun I own. 1894c that has had a lot of work done. Action work, stock work, optics work, a nose job....... It plinks with subsonic 38s, and it hits hard with hot 357s.
     

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    Enjoy my Rossi 92 with its Weaver 4x scout scope. Light, short, and accurate, great woods gun.
     
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  19. Gordon
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    Have a second year of production Marlin 94c .357 for 35 years . Its good to go and I did some action up grades on it for SASS cowboy work. Lately went to a Winchester 73 type Italian clone and it is smoother faster withg .38 spls for SASS competition.
     
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    Very very fond of the 357 levers. My Jm 94s at the CSS and the Cp. if I could only have one rifle and one handgun… it would be way at the top in a struggle with a 44spl and my Beloved Savage 99 375.
    Them 357 Marlins are excellent and way underestimated in my opinion! 9272F2C2-3512-4F77-8075-47BA598449A1.png 2AA8B373-7EAA-4FF9-8CA0-3BED099A8AEE.png 6CB5EB98-9409-429E-9D4A-B2DF637953BA.png 9272F2C2-3512-4F77-8075-47BA598449A1.png 2AA8B373-7EAA-4FF9-8CA0-3BED099A8AEE.png 9272F2C2-3512-4F77-8075-47BA598449A1.png 9272F2C2-3512-4F77-8075-47BA598449A1.png 2AA8B373-7EAA-4FF9-8CA0-3BED099A8AEE.png 6CB5EB98-9409-429E-9D4A-B2DF637953BA.png 6CB5EB98-9409-429E-9D4A-B2DF637953BA.png 2AA8B373-7EAA-4FF9-8CA0-3BED099A8AEE.png 9272F2C2-3512-4F77-8075-47BA598449A1.png
     
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    Whoops- uploaded A few times. Well ,to much of a good thing I guess
     
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    I'd feel pretty confident using 180gr XTP's or WFN (if they feed well) for deer at reasonable distances.

    I put together a 357Max carbine with that intent once upon a time at least.
     
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  23. Armored farmer

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    I'm a big fan of .357 carbines. 20210606_163644.jpg an 1894c / blackhawk..... 20160824_183225.jpg same carbine on my old jeep.
     
  24. Riomouse911

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    I have a 16” Rossi M-92 in .357/.38, and a M-92 .45 Colt and a Win 1894 Trapper in .44 Mag.

    Of the three, I must admit that the .45 Colt is my favorite rifle. Loading those fat cartridges through the gate and thwacking my steel plates is loads of fun. ;)

    A family photo:

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    The .357 is another fun plinker that I’ll occasionally pair with a K-frame .357 for SxS adventures in the back country. :)

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    Stay safe.
     
  25. Beck

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    I had a Marlin 1894C 357 Mag in high school (about 1980). One of the poorest decisions I ever made was to sell it as I was getting into other interests.... fast cars and girls.

    I bought a Rossi Model 92 (pre-safety - pre-Braztech) new about 1995. 20-inch barrel, 357 Mag. I love it... one of my favs. It's a good shooter with 158gr and a real tack driver with Fiocchi 357 MAG 142 GR FMJTC. Attached are a couple recent pics of the Rossi. Very simple. Nothing fancy. Nice stock though.
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