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.357 magnum: Korth vs. Smith

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Strykervet, Jan 10, 2011.

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  1. Strykervet

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    Of those of you who have used and/or owned both a Smith 686 and a comparable Korth, which do you prefer and why? How is the workmanship of the Korth compared to the Smith?

    I have never seen a Korth for sale that I could give a good going over, much less dry fire or live fire. I do have a 686+ 6" that is very, very well broken in and has the trigger worked to my exact liking. I can't imagine a better revolver.
     
  2. Tinman357

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    I don't imagine you'll get to many people who own both. The smith you have has a good rep for a good trigger that can be made great.

    The few Korth's I've seen were in the several thousand dollar range. No, They didn't let me dry fire them. :what:

    The comparison would be like comparing a Chevrolet (Smith) to a Lamborghini Countach 5000 S (Korth) The hand fitting and finish along with superb mechanical accuracy isn't cheap by any means. That's why they cost so much.

    If you get one, let us know how it shoots.
     
  3. 451 Detonics

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    We had a Korth in the shop, 4 inch. I must say I wasn't impressed when I shot it. The trigger was very reminiscent of a tuned Colt Lawman, it was a kind of a progressive trigger starting lighter than it finished. I much prefer a tuned S&W. It was the Combat Model with vent rib and had a 9mm cylinder with it as well.
     
  4. dnovo

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    I have owned a Korth and currently collect, and shoot, a lot of Colt and S&W DAs. The Korth, IMHO, is both overpriced and overrated. Nothing special and the quality has nothing on the older American counterparts. Save your money. Dave
     
  5. hardluk1

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    Since your looking to spend some serous cash why not add a Dan Wesson to the want list. New 357mag 715 model is comeing out this summer but all the used ones can still out perform most any new revolvers and you can find very nice moson mass made models for 400 and up and still find a pistol pack for the price of the avage new s&w
     
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    I'd love to be able to examine and preferably disassemble a Korth but I doubt that will ever happen. I have this sinking feeling that while they are better than your average S&W, they are probably still not worth their asking price. $5000 will net you a Best Grade custom gun from Hamilton Bowen and IMHO, would be money far better spent.
     
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    I only handled a Korth and thought.... WOW!...... What an overpriced waste of time.

    Buy a tuned Python or PC 686 and be happy.
     
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    Get a Ruger Security Six and have it gone over by any of the the latest and greatest revolver smiths. All the Ruger needs is a first class trigger job, and exterior cosmetics, if you lean that way. A very strong gun, and mine rivals any of my other gun for accuracy.
     
  9. Strykervet

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    Thanks for the replies. I sort of suspected that it was overpriced for what you get. I'll stick with my 686. The trigger is already worked and tuned to my liking. I couldn't imagine better, but thought I'd ask.
     
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    Here's another reason I love this forum. I've been a member here for over five years,
    own two SW, have learned tons about them, other SW, Ruger, Taurus, etc.

    But I've never heard of Korth revolvers until now.

    Always something new to learn.
     
  11. Shoot66

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    I have been contemplating a Korth myself for a time. Had a .22 LR Sport in mind.
    I am surprised how unequivocal the presented opinions are. Thanks.
     
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    "both a Smith 686 and a comparable Korth"

    S&W is far better. Keep reading.

    I drove 50 miles a few years ago to look at a Korth .38 at a gun shop. I learned something that day.

    The early Korth revolvers were nothing special. They were well made, had heavy trigger pulls and looked like a S&W. You should be able to get one for $500 to $800 or so.

    John
     
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    Korth build materials are much better that new Smiths but that does not matter to most people.

    Having never handled a Korth I cannot compare beyond there.
     
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    Shot one in Germany in the 1980's; nice firearm but not significantly better than a stock Python in my opinion. Of course a Python will run you $1,500 to 2,000 these days: I am glad I didn't trade mine away, like I did with others I wish I had kept, back when I was a poor Captain and had the new gun fever.
     
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    I have heard the claim that Korth supposedly used "better materials" than American guns but other than statements to that effect from them and a handful of Europeon pubs, have not seen that confirmed anywhere else. And even so, so what? It would be offset by the prices and, as noted in an earlier post and based on my own experience with a Korth, not the nicest trigger.

    For less money, have Bowen, Reeder or any number of American builders build you a better DA. Dave
     
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    "europeon"...heh,heh,heh
     
  17. Guillermo

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    Smiths are made with molded parts, Korths forged.
     
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    New Smiths, and only certain parts, and not the guns in the same "age bracket" as the Korths you find for sale in the current US market. You want a 'production revolver built from fine materials and built as good as possible? Buy a Freedom Arms. Dave
     
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    Yes, your analogy is good, and that Lambourghini isn't going to get you to work and back, and stop and pick up some bread and milk and a couple of boxes of ammo one bit quicker than that Chevy. It will do it more stylishly of course if that's important to you.

    What I really want a revolver to do is to launch a bullet 6 times so far as this comparison's concerned.
     
  20. Guillermo

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    when they start producing a competing product I would consider it.
     
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    Competing with what? Korth? Haven't seen a new one in years. Last time I spoke to Earl, who was the last distributor I was aware of, he didn't have any and the price listed were astronomical.

    What axe are you grinding here? Korth is, or was, a product of the 'if it is built in Germany it must be the best' view that goes back to when Porsche was still building the 356, a lovely, hand built, and very expensive sports car that was a niche product in the 50s and 60s and has now morphed into something far different, and the Lecia rangefinders, very well crafted, and the epitome of 50s optics -- and priced accordingly. Times have changed. Germany no longer builds things that cannot be found as well built or assembled elsewhere. (Indeed, a lot of Mercedes and other German builders assemble cars in Mexico. Some BMW motorcycles are still built in Berlin, but a portion of their line is built elsewhere and their newest sportbikes in China.) You are living in the past if you feel that Korth -- if it in fact still building these guns -- has something special to offer buyers, other than high prices.

    So, you don't like Freedom Arms, for some unstated reason, Smiths are garbage, etc. Okay can you post pictures of your Korth's and tell us where we should go to buy them at a 'competitive' price against whatever is out there? Or is there nothing out there? Please respond since I need to tell Hamilton Bowen and others to close up shop as they are out of the competition.

    Sorry if this sounds a bit sarcastic. Well, actually, no, it seems like you are just trolling here and perhaps it needs to be said.

    Your lob. Dave
     
  22. Guillermo

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    double action revolvers

    none whatsoever. I suspect that you might have confused me with some other posters. I made 3 posts, none extolling the virtues of Korth except build materials.

    I certainly never said anything that can construed to suggest
     
  23. dnovo

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    Okay, then I stand (or actually sit) corrected and apologize if I bit you for no reason. Sometimes I am just a cranky old coot. Sorry. Dave
     
  24. Guillermo

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    no worries Dave.

    I have read a thread and attributed things to another poster. (That is what I suspect happened here.)

    But hey...this is internet gun chat...it's all good. :D
     
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    I was offered a Korth for $1,000.00 one time, i thought it was over priced for that money!

    Make mine a Smith please!!

    DM
     
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