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.357mag or .44spl

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by DilboFlaggins, Oct 7, 2010.

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  1. DilboFlaggins

    DilboFlaggins Member

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    So im in the market for a snub carry revolver and im torn between .44 spl and .357 mag. I've shot .357 and i like it. I have 0 experience with .44 spl

    1. Whats your vote and why?
    2. For my own personal reference how dose .44 spl compare to .45acp? With each in a similarly sized gun?
     
  2. DilboFlaggins

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    I would say go with the .357 based simply on ammo availability and cost. I think .357 magnum is cheaper than 44special and I know that .38special is cheaper and much more plentiful for practice. You have already shot .357 and know that you like it.
     
  4. Lucky Derby

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    In comparable revolvers .44 Special and .45 ACP are pretty equivelent. .44 can be hotrodded more though. Most people don't anymore do to the .44mag.

    .44 offers the power withought the noise, recoil and blast of a .357.

    .357 ammo (and .38 Special) is much easier to find and less expensive. There are also a lot more available loads to choose from.

    I find that the .44 is more fun to shoot than the .357, but shooting .38's out of a .357 can be just as fun, without the expense.

    It really boils down to: do you reload? If yes, get the .44. If not get the .357.
     
  5. Nasty

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    .44 Special and .45 ACP are roughly equal in terms of what's considered stopping power.

    Recoil is more of a push in .44 special than the .357's sharper kick.

    All 3 calibers are adequate...find the form you prefer.
     
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    The .44Spl gives all the performance without the bleeding ears.
     
  7. CSA 357

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    not hard to figger this one out, 158 gr bullet and a 240 gr bullet, the handloaded 44 special is so far ahead of the 357 and 45 acp, but the 357 is a great man stopper
     
  8. BlayGlock

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    For ease of ammo I would bote .357.
     
  9. DilboFlaggins

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    thanks guys i like all the input, i'm thinking i like .44spl as a defense gun but can afford .357, odds are i'm going to have to go with .357 just for the cheaper gun and cheaper ammo and the availability.

    i also found this if anyone's interested
    http://www.snubnose.info/docs/44v357.htm
     
  10. Walkalong

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    I have 2 1/2" 686 and a 3" 696, and like them both a lot. (I favor the 696 though) Both are L frames and use the same holster. Either will do the job. The .357 is more versatile if you do not reload. Perhaps even if you do.
     
  11. DilboFlaggins

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    New question is there any company that you would not purchase a .44spl from, will a cheapo blow up on me?

    is that a dumb question?
     
  12. Taroman

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    44 = A No-brainer!

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    For that mission, I'd pick my .44.
     
  13. Walkalong

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    Keep an eye out for a Taurus or Rossi snub in .44 Spl. Another option is the Charter Arms Bulldog.
     
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    I will take a 357 for the obvious reasons. The revolver I would consider if I were you would be a Ruger Security/Service/Speed Six in a 2.75 barrel. Great revolver and won't break you pocket book.

    Good luck,
    Howard
     
  15. Jeff H

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    So following the math. 158 grains* 1400fps= 221200'grains/sec
    240 grains@ 850 fps=204000'grains/sec



    They seem about the same total force with a slight edge to the hot 357 loads.
     
  16. Waywatcher

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    This is momentum.

    Find the difference in kinetic energy of those two rounds.

    44 special at quoted stats is 385 ft/lbs
    .357 magnum at quoted stats is 685ft/lbs

    In your example the .357 has very nearly double the energy.
     
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    If ammo was no concern, I would opt for the .44 Special.
     
  18. glockman19

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    Shoot them and see how you like them. I prefer .38 in a snubby...a S&W 442/642 is plesant to shoot. I do not enjoy shooting .357 snubby's. The .44mag is not fun to shoot.

    I also prefer accuracy to power. I'm much more accurate with the .38+p than the other calibers. sepecially for followup shots.
     
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    You say this is for a carry revolver? I've never held a .44 snub, but I'm thinking the same size cylinder that holds 5 rounds of .44 would probably take 6 of .357mag. I'd carry a Model 19 snub with 6 rounds (of +P 38) if'n it weren't no bigger than a 5-shot 44.
     
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    You can get into a Rossi 357 2.5 barrel for $300.00
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=194728355

    I have a couple 357's and run 38 Critical Defense through them for conceal carry.

    I have a Dan Wesson 44 mag w/ a 2.5 and 4 inch barrels (DW has interchanagable barrels) but its not really a small gun. The 44 spl is less snappy and easier to shoot than the 357.

    Since a snub nose is not really a go to the range and burn ammo gun, cost of ammunition is not as big a deal.

    The 44 spl has the performance of the 45 acp, so as a self defense round I would reccomend it. When Thunder Ranch had a revolver made for them the first one was the S&W 44 spl, then they just went to a 45 acp revolver
    44 Spl
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    45acp
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    44 spl or 45 acp are good fighting rounds.

    Stainless Charter arms
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=194297051
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    Blued
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=194615694
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    The idea of a snubbie in either of these calibers makes me hurt. ;)

    If you get the .357, you have the option of shooting .38's through it. The .38 is a perfectly good manstopper and has the advantage of not having so much muzzle flip that you have problems reacquiring the target for a second shot. Besides, in a snubbie, you have excessive muzzle flash (a problem if you're shooting in low light). .357's work a lot better in a longer-barrelled revolver.

    I regularly shot .44specials through my .44mag and they are much more pleasant to shoot than the mags, but never shot them through a snubbie.

    Jan
     
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    44 special is a great round and there are certainly arguments against the 357 in a snub.

    Where the rubber hits the road I would probably get a 357.

    cheaper ammo, 38 special option, more choices of firearm
     
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    Great for those who choose according to ballistics tables but meaningless in the real world.
     
  25. Lucky Derby

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    No cheap .44 Special that I know of is likely to blow up. I did own a Charter Arms Bulldog, and while I love the concept of this revolver, the quality was poor. I had timing and light hit issues that my gunsmith could not resolve.
    I never should have sold the Taurus .44 special I had. I do currently have a 696 that will not be sold.
     
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