.38 Special Heavy & Slow

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  1. Mark_Mark

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    Any suggestions on a very heavy .38 Special that is very slow, Sub-sonic Slow. I’ll be using Hard Cast out of a 24” barrel and a 5.5” barrel
     
  2. Lnf Crzr

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    Trail boss powder or Bullseye, Lyman 173gr semi wadcutter… 38 brass, Is first idea I have

    Can? What kinda Firearms?
     
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  3. Mark_Mark

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    Winchester 1873 (modern) & pair of 1873 SAA 5.5”
     
  4. Lnf Crzr

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    No can? Just fun plinking?
     
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    should I thread my Uberti 1873??? great idea
     
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  6. Lnf Crzr

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    The SWC will give ya issues

    Saeco mold round nose 200gr could be worth the cost. Powder coat (No grease Groove smoke)
     
  7. Mark_Mark

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    I don’t like the look of powder coat, going with lead and grease
     
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  9. Lnf Crzr

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    Thread a Old school looking Lever, Sure. Yet I’d refrain.

    What your seeking is a “Cat sneeze” Load
     
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    I don’t care for the look- yet No smoke, leading, And not a expensive jacketed Bullet.

    At your requested speed, 700fps- You probably only need lead.

    Once you stick one in the barrel, push it out , add a smidge of powder and that’s your minimum speed limit- barrel length varies this
     

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    158 Grain LRN, 3.3 grains of Win 231, seems to work for me and much softer shooting than factory loads .. I get subsonic, buy why do you want to get real heavy and slow? Are you just looking to mess around and really lob some from distance just for entertainment sake?
     
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  13. Lnf Crzr

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    I attempted to do this with my Sharps 45-70 and 34” barrel.
    Had a Marlin 24” in 357 cowboy… attempted that one also.

    Ya , still u can only get so much “Hush” if that’s your Plan
     
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    thanks!
     
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    "Sub-sonic Slow"???o_O Do you mean "Sub-sonic" like about 99% of .38 Special loads - especially when you're using bullets that weigh more than about 110grs?
    My favorite "most purposes" .38 Special load is a 168gr "Keith style" SWC, over 4.6grs of Unique for around 825fps average from my revolver's 4" barrel. The speed of sound in air is about 1100fps, so that load is way "subsonic.";)
     
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  16. Mark_Mark

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    Thanks! anybody got somthing for Lil-Gun or H110
     
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    That’s what I use when I want to get 2000+ fps in my 357 carbines.
    Opposite burn rate (Slow) powder than what you would want
     
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    Hopefully not for sub-sonic .38 Special loads. Hot .357 magnum loads work well with H110. Light .357 Magnum loads are a no go with H110. No .38 Special loads are appropriate with H110.
     
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    I have had very good luck with home cast 180 grain bullets in .38 special brass with Trail Boss.

    Trail Boss works by filling the case to the top of where your bullet is seated. ( Start 10% below that ) It's super clean and very accurate.
     
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    Ps - H110 can’t be reduced less than 3% (Disclaimer, Use the loading data Books)

    Also with this endeavor, Make sure to have the Bullet exit the muzzle… or you could have a Bullet in the barrel….. then fire another. Would be catastrophic.
     
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    Both of those are powders that work well in 357magnum loads, they're not going to work for regular subsonic 38spl loads
     
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    Isn't this a revolver column?
     
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    Heavy and slow. RCBS 38-200RN, sized to .357 and the book load of Unique either in 39 or 357. Shot a bunch at bowling pinsa few years back. Only issue is the round nose...gotta hit straight on or the pins roll away.
     
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  24. Mark_Mark

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    it is, I wanted to use the same cartridge in my SAA as the rifle
     
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  25. Mark_Mark

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    I just slicked up my 1873 last night, 1st time doing it. I’ll be needing some new screws! lol, I gouged them
     
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